What are these please?

[sparkypenguin]

Hi,

Can anyone help me to confirm what these fish are please?

I think they're Red Robin Gouramis but I bought them as Red Honey Gouramis.
Are they the same thing?

Thanks,
Marks.

 

[mbsqw1d]

Red honey gourami

 

[DragonScales+Doubletails]

Red honeys. much more peaceful than the gobs in my opinion.

 

[Essjay]

DoubleDutch may chime in here, but it is thought there is no such thing as a red honey gourami. They are either thick lipped gourami or some sort of hybrid. Having had "red honey gouramis" years ago, I know mine grew a lot bigger than the proper honey gouramis I had later, so there may be something in it.

 

[DoubleDutch]

DoubleDutch may chime in here, but it is thought there is no such thing as a red honey gourami. They are either thick lipped gourami or some sort of hybrid. Having had "red honey gouramis" years ago, I know mine grew a lot bigger than the proper honey gouramis I had later, so there may be something in it.

You're correct.
These are official T.labiosa but probably an hybrid. There is no red variaty of T.chuna.

 

[sparkypenguin]

Thanks all.

@DragonScales+Doubletails - What are gobs?

@Essjay / @DoubleDutch
Am I correct that they will grow much bigger than the Honey Gouramis?
I bought them thinking they would only grow to 5cm.

 

[DragonScales+Doubletails]

What are gobs?

Goblins as in the other gourami species

 

[sparkypenguin]

Goblins as in the other gourami species

 

[DoubleDutch]

Thanks all.

@DragonScales+Doubletails - What are gobs?

@Essjay / @DoubleDutch
Am I correct that they will grow much bigger than the Honey Gouramis?
I bought them thinking they would only grow to 5cm.

They seem to only get a slightly bigger (a sign they are probably are an hybrid).

 

[itiwhetu]

They look like a Thick lipped Gourami red variety. This becomes a real problem when adding to a community tank. As a Thick lipped Gourami is a totally different beast to a Dwarf Gourami

 

[sparkypenguin]

@itiwhetu
Thanks for your post.
The general consensus is that they are s hybrid of a thick lipped Gourami and that they will probably grow a little bigger than a Honey.
However your post tends to suggest they are not a community fish, where as others have indicated that they are more peaceful than other Gouramis in general.
Does your post refer purely to thick lipped Gouramis or to this actual varient?

 

[Essjay]

Seriously Fish makes the following comment about thick lipped gouramis

One of the best gouramis to keep in a community tank, and is actually much more suitable than the popular dwarf gourami, C. lalia.

Trichogaster labiosa (Thick-lipped Gourami) — Seriously Fish

www.seriouslyfish.com

Members who have kept them will be able to confirm this. Or not.

 

[DragonScales+Doubletails]

I'm not personally a fan of thick lips most of the ones I've had were more aggressive than my Dwarfs.

 

[sparkypenguin]

Thanks to everyone for their input

I now have another fish that I would like help identifying.
I bought 3 Dalmatian Mollies a few weeks back, however I now think they are Lyretail Sailfins.
They have also turned black.
And I bought 3, 2 females and 1 male, and I actually have 2 males and 1 female.

Should the FS have known these would turn black and were they incorrectly sold?

 

[Colin_T]

Dalmatian mollies can change a bit and gain or lose some black. If it's black and white spotty, it's a Dalmatian.

There's no way the shop can tell if the fish is going to change colour unless one of the staff bred the fish and was into line breeding and genetics. And that is unlikely.

The lyretail is an old variety that is found in lots of domestic mollies.