I have several corals I have fragged out of water but now wish to secure frags to large rocks at bottom of large pile of live rock. I can not remove the rock due to corals attached to jointed rocks. Will super glue gel work to attach under water? What is recommended?
Wanting To Secure Frags Under Water
- Thread starter sahmof2
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Really the only way to reliably do it underwater is to use a combination of epoxy putty and superglue gel. Its best to do this at night only so fish dont try and eat the epoxy that my flake off during the process 
. Prepare enough epoxy putty by kneading it as directed to secure the frag. Then remove the frag from the water, do your best to dry the base. Put a bit of superglue gel on the bototm of the frag and then stick the frag in the epoxy. Then put some superglue on the underside of the center of the epoxy, and affix the whole thing to the LR. Knead and form it as necessary with your fingers and hold it for a minute while it cures if necessary. Depending on how much epoxy you use it might be a bit unsightly, but its really the only way to do it.
. Prepare enough epoxy putty by kneading it as directed to secure the frag. Then remove the frag from the water, do your best to dry the base. Put a bit of superglue gel on the bototm of the frag and then stick the frag in the epoxy. Then put some superglue on the underside of the center of the epoxy, and affix the whole thing to the LR. Knead and form it as necessary with your fingers and hold it for a minute while it cures if necessary. Depending on how much epoxy you use it might be a bit unsightly, but its really the only way to do it.
Danno
Fish Herder
Will this work with softies (shrooms in particular)?
The frags I am interested in doing this to are zoos,polythias, and mushrooms so there is no rock on the frag, just soft tissue. Will this process still work or will just super glue gel work alone as long as I scrub the live rock area with a toothbrush for cleaning to remove possible slick film? Also is there a certian type or brand of epoxy putty to use? I would hate to use the wrong putty and put toxins into my tank. 
Ah, you wanna do softies, sorry the first method I posted was for hard corals. For leathers and shrooms, get some rubble and put it in a small plastic cup or bin that you use for food storage. Then put the frags in the bin. The bin will keep them from being buffetted too much by the current so that they remain in-place while they re-attach their foot. Usually in 7-10 days the frag will have attached itself to one or a couple pieces of rubble at which point it can be removed and epoxied in place 
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Dunno about specific brands TBH, especially not what's available in the UK. I just bought mine from my LFS
.Dunno about specific brands TBH, especially not what's available in the UK. I just bought mine from my LFS
Dorkhedeos
Boss Major
you do this all outside of water right?
Danno
Fish Herder
Lets say that I have a mushroom that is unattached. There is a large piece of Live Rock that cannot be taken out of the tank. How would I attach it? Would I have to use puddy epox?
Attach mushroom to small piece of LR as I detailed with the plastic bin, then secure small bit of LR to larger piece with putty.
Danno
Fish Herder
Is there a way of directly transfering the mushroom to the live rock without a small piece of rubble?
Bigger ones can be done with needle and thread, but its tough with the smaller ones cause they really shrink when fragged/stressed.
atmmachine816
Fish Gatherer
No water movement won't affect them at all since their out of the water?Ah, you wanna do softies, sorry the first method I posted was for hard corals. For leathers and shrooms, get some rubble and put it in a small plastic cup or bin that you use for food storage. Then put the frags in the bin. The bin will keep them from being buffetted too much by the current so that they remain in-place while they re-attach their foot. Usually in 7-10 days the frag will have attached itself to one or a couple pieces of rubble at which point it can be removed and epoxied in place
Dunno about specific brands TBH, especially not what's available in the UK. I just bought mine from my LFS
Most corals can survive for varying periods of time out of water. Anywhere from 15 mins to hours...
I think atmmachine meant that you never said to put water in the bin, so they wouldn't /have/ any current... they would just be... dry... and dead. I'm assuming you put the lr rubble and the frag in the bin, then put the bin in your tank???
tie them down with a piece of dental floss, and yes you put the bin in your tank
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