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Walstad Method Tank

GuyLeDouche

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Hey!

So I’m looking to start up a Walstad Method Tank. I have a 20G tank.

Over the last year and a half I have had a live plant tropical 20G tank but continuously struggled to maintain a healthy balance. Also being a first time tank there were just a few things I could do done better such as cycling the tank properly in the beginning. The last couple months I have just let it go and plan to completely restart my tank.

I’m looking for all and any informations you guys could give me about Walstad Tanks both positive and negative experiences. Tips, tricks, suggestions. Anything will help. Thanks!
 
Welcome to TFF. :hi:

I am very familiar with Diana Walstad's method, I have her book (excellent for scientific data) and articles, and belong to her forum. I have never set up a soil-base tank because I do not see any real benefit.

There is one "benefit" to having organic soil (which has to be covered by a decent layer of sand or fine gravel) and that is the immediate production of CO2 from the breakdown of the organics. It takes a few months to establish this in a new aquarium with sand or gravel substrate. But Diana herself readily admits that after one year, a tank with a sand/gravel substrate will be as good as one with soil, and no further benefits follow.

So that deals with the only "benefit," now to the problems. High ammonia initially, for up to six months, is a significant issue. Most authors who basically follow the soil substrate method will advise no fish for six months, and using a dry start. Fish that dig can cause serious issues with soil, that should be obvious. Similarly, once set up with the layer of sand on top, you cannot dig into the soil to plant without a similar mess.

I have had inert fine gravel or sand substrates for well over 25 years, all with plants, and I cannot see thee value of deliberately causing issues for no benefit. BTW, with live plants there is no need to "cycle" a new tank; I never have, as the plants need nitrogen and they prefer ammonia/ammonium as their source. Fast growing plants, and floating plants are the best for this, will assimilate a surprising amount of ammonia/ammonium, certainly more that that produced by a few fish and the breakdown of organics.

Low-tech or natural planted tanks are very easy to set up and manage. If your experience has been different, there were likely issues with lighting or nutrients, or the species of plants attempted. Each plant species has differing requirements,much like fish, and all of us probably made mistakes trying to grow the wrong plants in our tanks. I'll add some photos of a few of mine to illustrate. Fine gravel or sand substrate, minimal plant additives, and moderate lighting.
 

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Hey thanks for the reply. I guess what attracts me the most about the Walstad is the minimal upkeep such as infrequent water changes. My understanding is that the soil was required to maintain nutrients over a long period of time for the plants. Can you tell me about the maintenance you have for those tanks you have? Which look awesome by the way
 
Hi and welcome to the forum :)

I'm not particularly fond of the Walstad method when it comes to no water changes. Whilst most people do water changes to remove nitrates, there are other issues with not changing water.

Fish live in a soup of microscopic organisms (bacteria, fungus, viruses, protozoa, etc) and these things build up in number over time. Big water changes done on a regular basis help to dilute these organisms and reduce the chance of fish developing diseases because of them.

Fish produce waste that gets trapped in the gravel and breaks down. This is fine to a degree but the fish waste produces acids that can lower the pH of the water. Big regular water changes help dilute the acids and keep the pH more stabile.

Imagine living in a house with no open doors or windows and no sewer system. You get fed in the house, you go to the toilet in the house, you live in the house. Within a short period of time the air becomes stale and stinks and unless you can open the house up and let clean air in and mess out, you will become sick. This is what happens in an aquarium that doesn't get water changes.

If you want a Walstad tank then try it and see what you think. Personally I like filters and water changes. Even a well planted tank without a filter but that gets big regular water changes is better than no water changes.

Other issues with the Walstad method is you only have a few small fish in the tank and don't put too much food in.
 
Hey thanks for the reply. I guess what attracts me the most about the Walstad is the minimal upkeep such as infrequent water changes. My understanding is that the soil was required to maintain nutrients over a long period of time for the plants. Can you tell me about the maintenance you have for those tanks you have? Which look awesome by the way

Thanks for the kind words. Colin has referenced the water changes and fish, I will carry on with those issues.

First, Diana is quick to point out that the fish load must be moderate. No matter how many plants, they have limits with respect to water quality, and with the fish load most of us expect this simply cannot work. I recall reading once that six black neon tetras in a well-planted low-tech method 55 gallon aquarium could exist without water changes because the plants would be able to handle things. That is a very small fish load.

Water changes benefit all fish, no one can reasonably argue the contrary. I change 60-70% of the tank volume every week without fail. Filters are (or should not be) essential, provided water changes are regular and the plants are clearly thriving. But mechanical filtration does help maintain clearer water; biological filtration will obviously occur in any aquarium but it should not be "encouraged" with plants. And chemical filtration should never be used with plants. So filtration is minimal, and basically only used to maintain a flow of water through media like sponge/foam/wool to remove almost-microscopic suspended particulate matter. Some fish need water current, so the filter should provide this, but it is not necessary for all fish.

Soil will release nutrients if any are present, but there are few. The benefit of soil is the decomposition of organic matter that creates CO2 and ammonia, both of which are macro nutrients for plants. This initial "boost" as I mentioned previously is the real benefit with soil, but with fish in an aquarium with an inert sand or fine gravel substrate that is not "cleaned" there will soon be a similar level of organics. I rarely touch the substrate in my tanks. Minerals have to be introduced, and all will be present with fish foods but here again the fish load is the issue. With very few fish, feeding will be minimal compared to a more heavily stocked tank, and depending upon the plant species and numbers this may or may not be sufficient. But nutrients must get into the water before plants can take them up, whether via their roots or their leaves, and aquatic plants use both. Some plants will take up more than what they need of certain nutrients (which can sometimes be detrimental) so any nutrients in the soil are likely to be gone fairly quickly. But regardless, you are not usually going to find calcium, magnesium, manganese, zinc, copper, etc in soil; the benefit again are the organics.

Substrate tabs dissolve nutrients into the water near the roots, which can be better in the control of algae as these nutrients do not get dispersed throughout the water column. This gets us into the whole issue of light/nutrient balance which is another topic.

Maintenance for me is simple. One substantial water change once a week, on the same day, changing 50% minimum but usually closer to 60-70%. I use substrate tabs for the larger swords (this really does show benefits) and a comprehensive liquid in all tanks but minimally. I have decent fish loads in most of the tanks, and always a cover of floating plants. I have never had ammonia or nitrite above zero, and nitrates are in the 0 to 5 ppm range and this has been the case for more than 20 years. The tanks have a biological stability that is strong and not easy to mess with provided the water changes occur.
 
Okay so you guys talk about BIG water changes and I have also heard people tell me to do small 10% water changes. Previously I was doing 25% water changes once a week. So I’m not sure what the right thing to do is. My concern is that with doing such large water changes you are drastically changing the balance of the water every time you do it.

The gravel or sand substrate that you use instead of soil, does it contain nutrients for the plants as well or is it only a medium for the plants to grow in? I had a volcanic rock type substrate. I use to put fertilizers but found I had a chronic problem with nitrates about 100ppm.

I just never seemed to be able to have a happy tank with happy plants and fish at the same time when I was doing 25% changes weekly. I think I was over feeding for a long time which was also an issue. I had carbon in my filter which I think was a mistake as well as it was filtering out a lot of beneficial things

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. The more the better before I start a new tank and try it again
 
I looked into the Walstad Method for a Betta tank may yet do one.

Low-tech or natural planted tanks are very easy to set up and manage.

Indeed they are,


I change about 75% water every week and sometimes add a few drops of Seachem flourish comprehensive.


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Okay so you guys talk about BIG water changes and I have also heard people tell me to do small 10% water changes. Previously I was doing 25% water changes once a week. So I’m not sure what the right thing to do is. My concern is that with doing such large water changes you are drastically changing the balance of the water every time you do it.

A water change of 10% every day is next to useless. You simply cannot remove enough of the "crud" to help. There was an article in TFH a couple years back with math showing why one 70% WC each week was way more beneficial and effective than 10% changes every day. Colin has written about this too. All I will say here is that you can never change too much water, as far as the fish and plants are concerned; with the plants however, you do need to make sure nutrients are available.

As I tried to explain previously, my tanks have such a stable balance because of the large changes. My GH and KH are zero out of the tap and I add nothing (I have all soft water mainly wild caught fish). I do use substrate tabs primarily for the "hard" minerals, and these plus the comprehensive liquid have been sufficient for the plants. I did use Equilibrium for some two years, to raise GH for the plants, and it certainly was effective, but fish issues I won't get into caused me to re-think this, and the substrate tabs have now, after some three years without E and just the tabs and liquid, proven to be sufficient. But it depends upon the plant species, light intensity, and CO2 [I'll come back to this below]. But my tanks are extremely stable with respect to water chemistry. Some of them have a pH below 5, some around 6, and this has never changed in years. Tap water is pH 7 but this is due to the soda ash they add to raise it as it is naturally below 5. The change in the tanks with such large WC's has shown to be around 0.2 or 0.3 which then lowers back by the next day. That is stable water.

Now, if you have tanks with low GH/KH/pH, and you do massive WC's with much harder water, this is a problem. But assuming you use the source water and have fish suited, there can be no issue with large water changes. Discus breeders regularly change 90-95% of their fry tanks' water two or three times each day.

The gravel or sand substrate that you use instead of soil, does it contain nutrients for the plants as well or is it only a medium for the plants to grow in? I had a volcanic rock type substrate. I use to put fertilizers but found I had a chronic problem with nitrates about 100ppm.

My substrates are inert; plain play sand or sometimes regular fine aquarium gravel if I want an aquascape replicating a S Asian river for loaches, or if I were to do a Central American river for livebearers. The tabs are the only plant additives in the substrate, and only for the larger swords. I did try Flourite plant substrate once, on the advice of members on another forum, but in the end I tore the tank down after two years and dumped the expensive Flourite in the garden. The plants were no better to my eyes, and the roughness meant I had to remove my cories when they developed barbel loss and one even lost a bit of its mouth [all recovered over play sand and I still have them, some six years later]. Not worth it.

Sand is overall better as a plant root medium, and for many fish.

I just never seemed to be able to have a happy tank with happy plants and fish at the same time when I was doing 25% changes weekly. I think I was over feeding for a long time which was also an issue. I had carbon in my filter which I think was a mistake as well as it was filtering out a lot of beneficial things

Yes, carbon may be detrimental, it will remove some nutrients. Filtration is actually not good for plants, but they can manage provided it is not extreme. The balance (light intensity and nutrients) is key with plants, and every species is different so mixing this and that frequently results in failure because the plants are being forced to adapt. I start out with the light...I know the detrimental effects of bright lighting on most forest fish, so I have low to moderate, no brighter. Then there is spectrum...plants need red and blue to drive photosynthesis, and adding green to this mix does improve plant growth. Probably because this is close to mid day sun, around 500K to 6000K. The "daylight" tubes/bulbs with 6500K are just about ideal, according to scientific studies. I use a mix of 5000K and 6500K when I have two tubes over a tank.

Once the light is set, then you find plant species that are suited, and you provide nutrients to balance. If you noticed in my photos earlier, there are swords, crypts, Java Fern, Java Moss, Anubias. That is what grows under the lighting intensity I provide. And I have floating plants which I view as mandatory for all fish, so the light is even less strong. These plants grow like weeds. I have tried other plants, they usually fail and melt within weeks, so I move on, until I have the plants that work.
 
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Years ago before filters (pre 1960s), people kept fish in tanks that were similar to the Walstad tank, basically well planted with minimal fish. They did this because the plants kept the water reasonably clean and the small number of fish limited the ammonia in the water. Back then they use to change 10% of the water every few days because they were concerned about the fish getting sick from big water changes.

Moving on to the 70s & 80s and people's opinions changed and some continued to do 10% water changes each week to minimise the stress a shock to the fish, while others suggested changing all of the water every week.

Since then people have realised fish, plants and filter bacteria are fine with bigger water changes as long as the new water has a similar chemistry (pH, GH, etc) to the tank water and it is free of chlorine/ chloramine.

My own experiences include having a fish room with over 40 tanks and working in various pet shops and aquaculture facilities, and has shown that big regular water changes are much more beneficial to the fish than small water changes. We had less problems with water quality and diseases when doing bigger water changes.

When you do a 10% water change you only dilute the nutrients, microscopic organisms and harmful substances in the water by 10%. This leaves 90% of the bad stuff in the tank where it can affect the fish.
If you change 25% of the water you leave behind 75% of the bad stuff.
If you change 50% of the water you remove half of the microscopic organisms and nutrients and this only leaves half behind, so the water and tank are cleaner.
If you do bigger changes (75+%), you remove 3/4s of the bad stuff and leave behind 25%, which is significantly less than the smaller water changes leave behind.

You can do 90% water changes every week and not affect the fish as long as the new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

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If you do a big water change once every month or every few months, the water chemistry in the aquarium can change/ deteriorate over time and be quite different to your normal water supply. So if you do a big water change every few months there is a chance the pH and GH of the tank water could be drastically different to the clean tap water and a big water change could cause the fish to die from pH shock (acidosis or alkalosis).

Under these circumstances it is better to do a small 10% water change each day for a week, then increase it to 20% each day for a week, and then increase it to 30-50% for a week. This introduces new water slowly over time and reduces the chance of stressing or killing the fish due to sudden changes in water chemistry.

If you have limitations on spare water that you can use, then doing water changes less often will save water, however you should check the pH and GH of the tank water and the tap water before doing a big water once a month or less often. If the pH and GH are the same, and the nitrate in the tank is less than 40ppm, then you can do a big water change once a month. But if the pH & GH are significantly different to the tap water, then smaller water changes (10-20%) are safer for the fish.

Having said this, there is still an issue with microscopic organisms in the water and more frequent water changes will help reduce the chance of disease outbreaks in the tank. But if you live in a desert or have water restrictions, then you can do water changes less often but monitor the water chemistry before you do a big water change.

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Overfeeding does not normally affect healthy plants because they can use the ammonia when they get light. Fish however, do suffer if there is uneaten food in the tank because any ammonia in the water can harm them.

Most aquarium fertilisers do not contain nitrates and neither do substrates designed for aquariums. If your nitrate levels were hitting 100ppm then there were too many fish, or too much food, or lack of water changes being done on the tank. Bigger water changes (75%) done each week should help reduce the nitrates more effectively than 25% water changes. If the nitrates continue to remain high you should check the water supply for nitrates and if there are no nitrates in the tap water, do 75% water changes 2 or more times per week to keep the levels lower than 20ppm.

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Carbon can be used to remove heavy metals and certain chemicals from water or air. It is not normally needed in an aquarium unless you have heavy metals (copper, lead, zinc, etc) in your water supply. Carbon will absorb aquarium plant fertilisers (iron based fertiliser are the most commonly sold in pet shops) and this counter-acts adding the fertiliser to grow plants.

If you have carbon in a filter and water to grow plants, then remove the carbon and replace it with a sponge.
 

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