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Walstad aquarium help

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Hey scapers!

I want to set up a walstad aquarium. I've done some research into it and I (sort of) know the equipment I'm going to use. I'm thinking of using the UNS 60U as the tank, Twinstar C Series for the light, and a generic HOB filter for filtration. I'd like to add shrimp and maybe fish (embers or rice fish of some species).

Does anyone out there have any tips or experience using this method? What are your favorite plants and soil to use? Or stocking options?

Thanks so much!
 
I sort of attempted this with my 90L. I'd suggest quick-growing plants like limnophilia, myriophyllum, elodea, and floating plants for excess nutrients even using house plants if possible. I used around a 1-inch thick layer of peat-free topsoil and a 2 to 2.5-inch thick layer of gravel/sand mixture. I think most members would suggest using sand as a cap but I prefer the look of gravel. I think I should have used a thinner layer of soil as the first few weeks even months were an algae fest which was a pain to deal with. I'd also suggest watching some videos or reading some articles to get more info. For stocking, I have 12 fish in my 90L with around 14 shrimp and pest snails. I do 10L water changes almost every week.

Best of luck with your walstad when you set it up :)
 
I sort of attempted this with my 90L. I'd suggest quick-growing plants like limnophilia, myriophyllum, elodea, and floating plants for excess nutrients even using house plants if possible. I used around a 1-inch thick layer of peat-free topsoil and a 2 to 2.5-inch thick layer of gravel/sand mixture. I think most members would suggest using sand as a cap but I prefer the look of gravel. I think I should have used a thinner layer of soil as the first few weeks even months were an algae fest which was a pain to deal with. I'd also suggest watching some videos or reading some articles to get more info. For stocking, I have 12 fish in my 90L with around 14 shrimp and pest snails. I do 10L water changes almost every week.

Best of luck with your walstad when you set it up :)
Thanks I'll look into those plants. Which fish are you keeping in yours?
 
Which fish are you keeping in yours?
A group of Sawbwa Resplendens that I bred last year. Also I have started to notice some stems towards the bottom are without leafs. This could either be a lighting issue or a anaerobic build-up damaging the plants. Probably should consider this if you are heavily planting :)

 
A group of Sawbwa Resplendens that I bred last year. Also I have started to notice some stems towards the bottom are without leafs. This could either be a lighting issue or a anaerobic build-up damaging the plants. Probably should consider this if you are heavily planting :)

That's interesting thanks! I've never considered anaerobic substrate as a factor in plant growth like that. I'll definitely look into it.
 
Walstad tanks are wonderful if you do them right. My first advice would be to get Diane Walstad's book, Ecology and the Planted Aquarium, and read it carefully. She is a microbiologist by training, and if you find the book interesting, you might be nerdy enough to follow her method. :lol: You'll also learn a ton about how aquariums work. I find it fascinating, but it reads like a college level textbook. A riveting novel it ain't.

I've done many tanks using her philosophy, and all of my current tanks are Walstad setups, especially the 55g (see link in my signature) The goal is to replicate natural processes as closely as possible, eliminating unneeded technology so natural systems can do the work. The foundations of the method are roughly as follows:

1. Here's the big one: It's all about the plants, because they provide the filtration. If a Walstad setup has a filter at all, it is mostly to provide water circulation and possibly mechanical filtration. But the plants are doing the heavy lifting, keeping the water clean. In practical terms, that means you need a lot of plants, and you emphasize giving them what they need to be happy. This takes precedence over aesthetics (which can still be beautiful) and fish choices. The emphasis is on building a great habitat, which will in turn support the fish.

I usually start out a walstad tank with around 15 different species of plants, a mix of forms and growth rate--rooted, rhizome, stems, and especially floaters, knowing that over time some will come to dominate and others will die out. Once the plants are in and most of them are growing actively, you can go ahead and add fish and the plants will take care of the rest. Search "silent cycle" on the forum for lots of good info on getting started.

2. Fairly light stocking. I use aquadvisor.com to plan most of my initial stocking, and I find that keeping the stocking level around 80% or less works well for a Walstad tank. If you keep up on your water changes you can go a little over that.

3. Water circulation. In a small tank, say 30g of less, an airstone will give you all the water movement your plants need (note that some fish prefer or even require more movement that this, so do your research) In a really large tank like my 150g, I use a canister filter and a powerhead to really keep the water moving and avoid dead spots.

4. Soil substrate capped with sand. This is less important. The soil releases small amounts of ammonia and quite a lot of natural CO2, and provides a huge nutrient boost, all of which gives the plants a great start. It basically saves you the trouble of adding ammonia to cycle. That said, I've done a couple of Walstad tanks with just sand, no soil. It seems to work almost as well and doesn't have the risks of adding soil to your tank. As long as you have a good light, most plants don't seem to care too much.

As far as specific plants, you can use just about anything that isn't too fussy. I've had great results with crypts, java fern, willow and java mosses, fast growers like ambulia and valisneria, and floaters like frogbit and Asian floating fern. Like I said, add a ton of biodiversity to hedge your bets.

OK, that's probably more than enough for now. Keep us posted and good luck.
 
I'll definitely keep you posted and I'll check out those resources. Diane's book isn't too expensive on amazon and I love reading things about aquariums.

It might be a couple months until I get to set it up since I'm leaving the country in a week, but I'll just keep doing more and more research so I can start when I get back.

Thanks so much for your help!
 
As somebody who started out gardening in dirt on land and then migrated to doing plants in water, I can tell you what cause the plants not to have leaves on their lower parts is more than likely from a lack of light. As the plants in a tank grow upwards they tend to block the light that reaches the bottom. The result is plants can become leggy- a fancy term for bare stems nearer the substrate. The way to prevent this is to have a good scissors and prune.

I used to do baby tears. I would plant the stems one at a time (a PITA). A few minth later I had a mat of them rising up and the bottom third was all bare. I used to pull it all out of the tank and throw away 95% and replant individual stems. That is too much work that I had to do maybe 4 or 5 times/year. I also had to pull up all the stem plants more often and cut them in half and replant the top half. I wanted to keep them as single stames.

If you cut off the top and leave the bottom, it puts out multiple stems from below the cut. This is a good way to produce a more bushy plant if that is what one wants. I prefer to have single stems as opposed to the bushy look.

Btw- I had no desire ever to try a Walstad tank. In fact, I had a desire never to do one. I am not a fan of them. I keep fish. I keep plants where it is beneficial for the fish. In the end, I had a dozen of my 20 tanks for breeding and growing out Hypancistrus plecos. None had any plants in them. I also had 13 planted tanks at my peak including one with pressurized CO2.

But, it is true that live plants are one of the better filters one can have. But not all of us can handle live plants which will not be treated kindly by a number fish species we keep or the set-ups which some fish need.
 
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I used to do baby tears. I would plant the stems one at a time (a PITA). A few minth later I had a mat of them rising up and the bottom third was all bare. I used to pull it all out of the tank and throw away 95% and replant individual stems.
OMG!!!! You have the patience of Job. I just planted (sort of) some baby tears - just a tiny bit- and I was wondering why the @$@%^@ I bought them halfway through the job. They are pretty when they really get going (after months, I guess, since they grow so slow), but OMG they are a pain.
 
Walstad tanks are wonderful if you do them right. My first advice would be to get Diane Walstad's book, Ecology and the Planted Aquarium, and read it carefully. She is a microbiologist by training, and if you find the book interesting, you might be nerdy enough to follow her method. :lol: You'll also learn a ton about how aquariums work. I find it fascinating, but it reads like a college level textbook. A riveting novel it ain't.

Yep, get and read the book. Then make a plan of what you want to do and then read the book again.
 
I'd argue you can't do a Walstad tank without first reading all of her book. There are a lot of cherry picked versions online, but it's one of those things where you have to understand what you're doing to troubleshoot later on down the line. Those tanks are an entire process.

I'm a fish first person, so her methods don't appeal to me. I respect her work immensely though. She developed something solid and took the time to share it. If we trust Joe from the internet's version when he may not have read the book or fully understood what he was taking on, things go wrong. I've read her book, and I see a lot of effort saving shortcuts being sold online. Any time you cut corners, you have to beware, and a lot of the online stuff comes 3rd or 4th hand from a vague idea of what was suggested.

If you get advice here (I hope you do), trust @WhistlingBadger .
 
I'd argue you can't do a Walstad tank without first reading all of her book. There are a lot of cherry picked versions online, but it's one of those things where you have to understand what you're doing to troubleshoot later on down the line. Those tanks are an entire process.

I'm a fish first person, so her methods don't appeal to me. I respect her work immensely though. She developed something solid and took the time to share it. If we trust Joe from the internet's version when he may not have read the book or fully understood what he was taking on, things go wrong. I've read her book, and I see a lot of effort saving shortcuts being sold online. Any time you cut corners, you have to beware, and a lot of the online stuff comes 3rd or 4th hand from a vague idea of what was suggested.

If you get advice here (I hope you do), trust @WhistlingBadger .
Thanks - I've noticed a little bit of this myself as I've done research on it and once I get back to the states I think I'll buy it. If not to actually do a walstad tank, then at least to learn about all the background processes. Appreciate it!
 
Thanks - I've noticed a little bit of this myself as I've done research on it and once I get back to the states I think I'll buy it. If not to actually do a walstad tank, then at least to learn about all the background processes. Appreciate it!
You can get it at a lot of libraries, if you can't find it to buy. If I was able to find it (through interlibrary loan) here in back-water Wyoming, I'm sure it won't be a problem in Georgia.

I did end up buying it, though. It's a valuable reference.
 

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