UNWELL GUPPY

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Hi, this guppy tank has been set up for about 2 months , today I noticed on of my guppy’s lying on my plants and not moving any fins, he is breathing but that is all, I have tested my water several times and done a 50% water change and now , several hours later , he is still the same, was just wondering if there is anything else I could possibly do?
 
View attachment 148462Hi, this guppy tank has been set up for about 2 months , today I noticed on of my guppy’s lying on my plants and not moving any fins, he is breathing but that is all, I have tested my water several times and done a 50% water change and now , several hours later , he is still the same, was just wondering if there is anything else I could possibly do?
UPDATE

Unfortunately I have just found he has passed away :( I don’t know what could have caused this he was completely fine yesterday
 
UPDATE

Unfortunately I have just found he has passed away :( I don’t know what could have caused this he was completely fine yesterday
Now another guppy is doing the strange behaviour when he was fine less than half a hour ago :( I’m really stuck here ive tried everything I have learned over the last 3 months ive been doing this but nothing seems to be working
 
UPDATE

Unfortunately I have just found he has passed away :( I don’t know what could have caused this he was completely fine yesterday
Now another guppy is doing the strange behaviour when he was gone less than a few hours ago :( I’m really stuck here ive tried everything I have learned over the last 3 months ive been doing this
 
How long have you had the fish for?
Have you added anything to the tank in the 2 weeks before this started?
Do you know what the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH of the water is?
What other fish are in the tank?

It could be Columnaris, which would need anti-biotics to treat. However, they are hard to get in the UK so salt might be an option but there's no guarantee salt will work.

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SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 2 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.
 
Hi thank you very much for the reply , all my levels were fine and consistent with what they was when I cycled the tank, no nitrates ammonia etc and ph was fine, the 2nd guppy also died but I’ve had to go to my night shift now , there was a 3 shrimp added to the tank for cleanup purposes, and there are 2 red wag tail Platys in there also, as one of the Platys in my other tank was harassing the two wag tails constantly and they are fine in this tank, I have a 80L also which I could transfer if needed with a mixture of guppy tetra and cory, the last remaining guppy in that tank was fine before I went so I will check on him when I’m back.

I will have a look into the salt technique if he starts to show symptoms that the other two were showing, thank you again for the reply and sorry for it being a bit late !
How long have you had the fish for?
Have you added anything to the tank in the 2 weeks before this started?
Do you know what the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH of the water is?
What other fish are in the tank?

It could be Columnaris, which would need anti-biotics to treat. However, they are hard to get in the UK so salt might be an option but there's no guarantee salt will work.

---------------------
SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 2 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish
 

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