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I don't understand what harm a few extra mods would do?

1) It isn't just as easy as simply 'promoting' people. They have to be a good fit with the group that already exists

2) and ever hear the expression 'too many cooks spoil the soup'? I think it is applicable here.


I dont think number 2 is really applicable here really, seeing a mod post is a little bit of a rare occurance, they soon rear their heads when people question the running of the forum though. ;)

I would have though you knew better Tizer. as already stated. most of the mods job is behind the scenes. and they post a lot more than you give them credit for
bit harsh??

saying a mods post is a rare occurrence is a little harsh as well. A large post count means nothing really. Have a look in the marine section, the planted section, and other specialist sections, there are plenty of mod posts. Just because we are not all posting in the Tropical chit chat, it doesn't mean the mods don't post.
If thats the case, then maybe more moderators need to post in that section, because it seems one of the most frequently posted in section
as state above. what has the number of posts got to do with anything?
for the most part, our experts (if there are any left) are not mods. its a quite different job.
not that our EXPERTS like to be called so, that is.
those who do (like to be called EXPERTS) more often then not, aren't. but think they are.

as the MODs are a team. I would have thought its more important that they fit in with the current team.
apart from the lack of posting (which is a none problem). just what problems are our mods having?

incidentally QWERTY diarrhoea, does not mean the poster reads all the post. it simply meant they post a lot. again 2 different things.
 
I don't understand what harm a few extra mods would do?

1) It isn't just as easy as simply 'promoting' people. They have to be a good fit with the group that already exists

2) and ever hear the expression 'too many cooks spoil the soup'? I think it is applicable here.


I dont think number 2 is really applicable here really, seeing a mod post is a little bit of a rare occurance, they soon rear their heads when people question the running of the forum though. ;)

I would have though you knew better Tizer. as already stated. most of the mods job is behind the scenes. and they post a lot more than you give them credit for
bit harsh??

saying a mods post is a rare occurrence is a little harsh as well. A large post count means nothing really. Have a look in the marine section, the planted section, and other specialist sections, there are plenty of mod posts. Just because we are not all posting in the Tropical chit chat, it doesn't mean the mods don't post.
If thats the case, then maybe more moderators need to post in that section, because it seems one of the most frequently posted in section
as state above. what has the number of posts got to do with anything?
for the most part, our experts (if there are any left) are not mods. its a quite different job.
not that our EXPERTS like to be called so, that is.
those who do (like to be called EXPERTS) more often then not, aren't. but think they are.

as the MODs are a team. I would have thought its more important that they fit in with the current team.
apart from the lack of posting (which is a none problem). just what problems are our mods having?

incidentally QWERTY diarrhoea, does not mean the poster reads all the post. it simply meant they post a lot. again 2 different things.
Can i ask what the underlined has "got to do with anything"?
 
My few points if i may,

1. Don't think a few more mods (maybe 2) would do any harm at all to the place
2. Mods are people who choose to mod the forum they are just like anyone else, if people spoke to each other like they do to a
mod we wouldn't have half the trolls
3. spoke to most of the mods at one time or other in the past year and all have friendly,polite and respectful :good:
 
Can i ask what the underlined has "got to do with anything"?
What rex means is that it takes different skills to be a mod than just knowing a lot about fish. I'm the first to admit I know nothing about marine, nor about oddballs or brackish. I'm learning about plants. I'm not a mod because I know things. Those who do know a lot about fish might not necessarily have the skills needed to make them a good mod. That's what he means.
 
Well i think this forum is very well maintained, there's always at least 1 mod online... they all seem polite, friendly & very helpful just like alot of the forum members (maybe more so imo) ...i don't think an extra few mods would do any harm but i also don't think it's needed as this is (like i said before) a very well maintained forum.
 
Checking my email and replying to this thread has probably used about 0.9 pence, and to be honest, i value the earth alot more than this, and have got better things to be doing with my time
 
The mod's on here to me all seem to have a good sense of humor (which i think is essential) they are laid back and chilled out (which is great)Exactly what a mod need's to be i think. Your going to get trolls all the time, but im sure if the mods think we need a couple more people in the future then they will do it in their own time. :good:
 
I dont think number 2 is really applicable here really, seeing a mod post is a little bit of a rare occurance, they soon rear their heads when people question the running of the forum though. ;)

good one Tizer, that's the way forward. There are plenty of mod posts if you bother to read the forum properly.

my advice would be look at the bottom of your screen every now and again and you'll always see a mod on duty.

I dont blame you for a defensive response ian, if anything i was testing the water a little. You should understand my attitude by now, its a little tongue in cheek at the best of times. While im aware it seems a mod is online most of the time by looking at the bottom of the screen, its not entirely truthful, people would see me online all day because i have the forum open in a tab at work. I might not be at my machine all day though :) Also, when you guys decided to put me on a 3 day moderation "ban" for bypassing the swear filter a few times, it took 48 hours for a post i wanted to make to be authorised by a mod so in my eyes (yes i know its not a high priority to authorise a naughty boys post) the forum could do with a few more mods that are "active in the community", especially with the increased number of forums people now have to navigate around, posts are far more likely to get over looked or lost. ;)

Please dont take my attitude negatively, you guys do a wicked job and a lot of people hang on your answers as well as other mods, which is what makes this a nice tight knit community, but if people, including the mods dont post enough, how are we all supposed to work one another out and have a bit of a crack with eachother? :)
 
please guys, family forum and all that. :good:
 
I dont think number 2 is really applicable here really, seeing a mod post is a little bit of a rare occurance, they soon rear their heads when people question the running of the forum though. ;)

The trick is that every time we add a mod, pretty much all the active mods have to agree it is a person that they can get along with, agree with, debate with, etc. If there are 3 active mods, then you only need 3 agreements, but if there are 10 active mods, you have to get 10 agreements. Obviously, that gets harder. And then, even if they do get 10 agreements, if that 11th one has a different vision, or style or personality than we thought, I think you can see how conflicts could arise. Again, with a small number, it is easier to make sure that all the mods are running the show 'by the book'. A larger number of mods increases the chances of someone going rogue or just not going with the consensus.

I will agree that the chances of problems are small. We vet members who we think are potential modes extremely thoroughly and for a long time. But, history shows that no matter what, problems can and do arise sometimes. The more mods there are, quite simply the chances for problems increase. This is what I meant by too many cooks spoil the soup.

So, we try to keep a tight-knit group that can keep up with the workload. We are always keeping our eyes open, but the decision to bring on new mods is a function of how busy the forum is and how busy we mods are in the 'real world'. Maybe we don't have the perfect number of mods on the team at this moment, but we certainly aren't grossly wrong at this time.
 
Just to add - Most of the time im reading a post, I see a mod down at the bottom checking it over, this is 88% of the time
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