I'm not going to get into exactly what I think here, those on chat earlier know and agree, more or less. I think it's ugly, too complicated, pointless (once the novelty wears off that is. Just how many killie posts have there been since the last mention of a sub-forum? One, two? Nothing that demands a seperate area), and certainly means we're going to have to end up with the stupid layout that no one wanted- everything divided, sub-divided, sub-sub divided.... We're going to end up with a bichir sub-forum, then a ray one, then an eel one, and so on, until the cyprinid/characin forum realises they've been had and wants cyprinids and characins divided, which then go into sub-sub forums... where's the point? To my mind, it hasn't done a great deal of benefits to the Catfish forum, indeed, I now only look at the Other Catfish section whereas before I looked at all. By forcing people to search in endless subforums for topics, it drives people away and stops people helping.