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some of you may've seen the bit in pfk where it says if you subscribe you can get a free fluval mini c02 kit... i was waiting for something like this to come up actually so i didnt have to go out to get one...

it's arrived

and i am excited

shooop da wooop
 
Let me know if it is any good please. I can not get another subscription as already have a few with other mags, but I was looking at buying a little co2 kit.
 
I wanted to order the magazine but here it's $136 which is about $10.50 an issue since it's 13 issues :(
 
Let me know if it is any good please. I can not get another subscription as already have a few with other mags, but I was looking at buying a little co2 kit.

yeah.. it's pretty good... but i'd still go for a bigger one TBH
 
I got mine free a few issues back when they gave the free fluval 30ltr tank. There was a choice between the flora (with co2) or ebi. I still haven't even opened the box the co2 was in. This was when there was a mix up with the original offer when you subscribed and they set these offers up for those who did subscribe.
 
yes... it will be fine for that size! i am running mine in a 60 litre ATM
 
Its perfect for 30ltr tanks. I'm not sure whether its big enough for a 60ltr.
 
meh... its doing alright! the tetra plant one i have says it is for 100 litres but it only has 11 G in it... this has 22 G and if 11 G "can do 100L" then in their mind 22G "should do 200L"

but i'm Ok with it... its a freebe so i will be happy!
 
vague statement by the manufacturers TBH. 1G can do 1000 gallons. thats just a measurement however it would last 1 second and be empty.

As a guide I have a more efficient setup than most (so it seems) as my CO2 lasts longer than most BUT 2kg lasts for circa 9-12 months on my 125ltr!!!

So divide that into 30 means a quarter. quarter of 2kg is 500g. How many 22g cylinders does it now take to do that 30 litre tank for 9-12 months?

I make that 22 so unless they are £1 each a fire extinguisher is much much cheaper and a full on reg for refillable bottles is much much more reliable than the little fancy regulators on the fluval/ADA and other brands of the mini cylinder setups.

I remember 5-6 years ago Hydor were doing these and they were incredibly unreliable and very very expensive to run. They were if I remember 95g cylinders but still they were very expensive!!!

It's one of those things where you have to weigh up the pluses and negatives before deciding if it's a good deal.
 
Thanks SuperColey, that's why I haven't even opened the box.
 
more due to how much you are injecting really. those little setup make use of calculations saying things like using '4 bubbles per minute'. Any unit can say this but in reality most people who use pressurised are using 1 bubble per second on anything around the 30 litre mark. Thats 20x what the little units suggest.

A little like the economy rate of fuel applied to cars. At a perfect X mph then yes the statements are right but in reality it is impossible to driver everywhere at X mph constantly even if you try unless you are on an oval race circuit and cruising at that mph. The reality is that even if we try to stay on that mph we will be slightly above it or below it, plus stopping starting up again, queuing etc. However it sells cars to say it does X mile to the gallon. More useful would be a full list of how many miles to the gallon the car would do at every increment, how much it uses to start up, how much it uses whilst in neutral or queuing, temperature variance, how much the air onditioning etc uses up ;) Some cars may be better at X variance than another but poorer than the same car at Y variance. Same with X aquarium setup versus Y setup.

Tanks have all many many variations like the above analogy, where water evaporates creating slightly more turbulence meaning more needs injecting, where KH and other parameters play their part, where other variants and reactants play a role in determining how much you can use, however 4bpm? May as well use a very slow DIY mix if that suggested rate worked.

For me on my 125ltr I use circa 2bps. less than most people with the same tank probably from variances within my system compared to others. On my 23 ltr I was using 25bpm to achieve the same ppm. Thats pretty much close to the ratio calculations of 125ltr vs 23ltr. My 23 ltr would use a 22g cylinder up in a few days I would expect.
 

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