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Hi so I have noticed that this morning a single tetra out of 11 seems to be swimming vertically in short bursts. I checked my parameters and everything seemed normal Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0 and nitrates a 20 ppm. I think it has something to do with his swim bladder but not sure. He also will not eat. He is one of the smaller one in the shoal by a significant amount but there is a smaller tetra that seems fine. Do you think it would be best quarantining the fish or what should I do?
 

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Do you do water changes? I ask as your water looks pretty murky. This could have an affect.
I do 15% twice a week and did one yesterday. The murkiness is on the glass It’s some algae I have to get off. I am able to do a 50% today if that would be ok I just don’t wanna change the parameters too much.
 
Are you able to take a video by any chance? That will give extra context as to the fish's movements/swimming.
 
Are you able to take a video by any chance? That will give extra context as to the fish's movements/swimming.
He seems to of gotten alot worse im not quite sure what I should do he is basically not swimming at all and swims up then falls down. The fish does not have any curved spine or anything im just not sure I think it might be swim bladder disease. I have now moved the fish to my quarantine tank so I can observe what is wrong.
 
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He seems to of gotten alot worse im not quite sure what I should do he is basically not swimming at all and swims up then falls down. The fish does not have any curved spine or anything im just not sure I think it might be swim bladder disease.
That's going to be a really useful video for people on here that know more than me about ID of a disease/strange behaviour. You might already be prepared, but from what I see, have euthanasia in mind, but I don't know enough to start suggesting that. There are people who will know more than me. But it don't look hopeful to me.
 
That's going to be a really useful video for people on here that know more than me about ID of a disease/strange behaviour. You might already be prepared, but from what I see, have euthanasia in mind, but I don't know enough to start suggesting that. There are people who will know more than me. But it don't look hopeful to me.
Yeah I think the fish has lost the ability to swim some how as In the quarantine tank he is lying against a rock breathing but not swimming.
 
The fish is starving to death. it probably has intestinal worms, gill flukes and is dying from low blood levels and low blood pressure.

It could also have a swim bladder issue but my guess it's dying and will be dead shortly. I would euthanise it and deworm the remaining fish.

Section 3 of the following link has info on deworming fish
 
The fish is starving to death. it probably has intestinal worms, gill flukes and is dying from low blood levels and low blood pressure.

It could also have a swim bladder issue but my guess it's dying and will be dead shortly. I would euthanise it and deworm the remaining fish.

Section 3 of the following link has info on deworming fish
Thanks for the help I also went to my LFS and they also recommended euthanasia. They said that it’s possible it might be worms and to monitor for other signs as that is the first thing I have noticed. I have ordered some medication and will start treating when it gets here. Would this medication work
 

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Do not use Para-cide. It contains Trichlorphon, which has been ineffective against fish parasites since the 1990s due to major mis-use in Asian fish farms. It's also highly toxic to catfish, loaches, eels and crustaceans (shrimp, snails). It's an outdated useless medication that should be removed from shelves.

Get some Levamisole and Praziquantel, or find Flubendazole. Levamisole is the first one to try. If you can find Flubendazole, that is good too but kills shrimp and possibly snails. Levamisole and Praziquantel do not affect shrimp or snails.

Section 3 of the following link has information about deworming fish.

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To work out the volume of water in the tank:
measure length x width x height in cm.
divide by 1000.
= volume in litres.

When you measure the height, measure from the top of the substrate to the top of the water level.

If you have big rocks or driftwood in the tank, remove these before measuring the height of the water level so you get a more accurate water volume.

You can use a permanent marker to draw a line on the tank at the water level and put down how many litres are in the tank at that level.

There is a calculator/ converter in the "FishForum.net Calculator" under "Useful Links" at the bottom of this page that will let you convert litres to gallons if you need it.

Remove carbon from the filter before treating with chemicals or it will adsorb the medication and stop it working.

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Before treating the tank, do the following.
Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge. This removes the biofilm on the glass and the biofilm will contain lots of harmful bacteria, fungus, protozoans and various other microscopic life forms.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. The water change and gravel cleaning will reduce the number of disease organisms in the water and provide a cleaner environment for the fish to recover in. It also removes a lot of the gunk and this means any medication can work on treating the fish instead of being wasted killing the pathogens in the gunk.
Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. However, if the filter is less than 6 weeks old, do not clean it. Wash the filter materials/ media in a bucket of tank water and re-use the media. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn. Cleaning the filter means less gunk and cleaner water with fewer pathogens so any medication (if needed) will work more effectively on the fish.

Increase surface turbulence/ aeration to maximise the dissolved oxygen in the water.
 
Do not use Para-cide. It contains Trichlorphon, which has been ineffective against fish parasites since the 1990s due to major mis-use in Asian fish farms. It's also highly toxic to catfish, loaches, eels and crustaceans (shrimp, snails). It's an outdated useless medication that should be removed from shelves.

Get some Levamisole and Praziquantel, or find Flubendazole. Levamisole is the first one to try. If you can find Flubendazole, that is good too but kills shrimp and possibly snails. Levamisole and Praziquantel do not affect shrimp or snails.

Section 3 of the following link has information about deworming fish.

-------------------------

To work out the volume of water in the tank:
measure length x width x height in cm.
divide by 1000.
= volume in litres.

When you measure the height, measure from the top of the substrate to the top of the water level.

If you have big rocks or driftwood in the tank, remove these before measuring the height of the water level so you get a more accurate water volume.

You can use a permanent marker to draw a line on the tank at the water level and put down how many litres are in the tank at that level.

There is a calculator/ converter in the "FishForum.net Calculator" under "Useful Links" at the bottom of this page that will let you convert litres to gallons if you need it.

Remove carbon from the filter before treating with chemicals or it will adsorb the medication and stop it working.

-------------------------

Before treating the tank, do the following.
Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge. This removes the biofilm on the glass and the biofilm will contain lots of harmful bacteria, fungus, protozoans and various other microscopic life forms.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. The water change and gravel cleaning will reduce the number of disease organisms in the water and provide a cleaner environment for the fish to recover in. It also removes a lot of the gunk and this means any medication can work on treating the fish instead of being wasted killing the pathogens in the gunk.
Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. However, if the filter is less than 6 weeks old, do not clean it. Wash the filter materials/ media in a bucket of tank water and re-use the media. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn. Cleaning the filter means less gunk and cleaner water with fewer pathogens so any medication (if needed) will work more effectively on the fish.

Increase surface turbulence/ aeration to maximise the dissolved oxygen in the water.
Ok thanks. Do you know any Australian brands the only one I can’t seem to find any I am able to get API General Cure if that would work?
 
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API General Cure contains Praziquantel, which treats tapeworm. But it also contains Metronidazole, which is an antibiotic and you don't want that in the tank unless the fish have an internal protozoan infection.

Praziquantel can sometimes be bought as a cat or dog wormer (Droncit), or Blue Planet fluke & tapeworm treatment contains Praziquantel

I would look for Levamisole or Flubendazole first though because threadworms are much more common in fish than tapeworm. I used to buy Levamisole from a stockfeeder. It comes in three concentrations and I used the sheep one (32mg per litre). I used 1ml of Levamisole for 7 litres of water.


 

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