Swim Bladder & Fin Rot

[777james777]

Hello all.

I have had my tank now for about two years and all in all it’s been good, I did the water cycle and have had very positive results / little death.

The tank is 160 litres and has an 80% water change ever 10-14 days.

However recently one of my fish randomly developed what looks like fin rot and is giving signs of swim bladder. Unfortunately he didn’t make it.

It’s clean night tonight, but I have notice that another fish is showing exactly the same symptoms (not quite as bad)

Iv been and bough the below treatments (see picture) My questions are as follows.

1. Shall I put the affected fish in its own tank to treat it?

2. I have 3 albino dwarf frogs and a large shrimp but it’s says on the swim bladder instruction, “do not use with scaleless fish” can they not be exposed? (Hence question 1)

Any other tips hints welcome

 

[CaptainBarnicles]

Have you tested your water recently? Fin rot is almost always caused by poor water quality but you're doing large and consistent water changes, so if test results are good it might be something else other than fin rot. What fish is having the problems? You could post some photos for us to have a look at or a video would be better I recommend meds as a last resort, salt and clean water can sort out fin rot if that's what it is but we need to make sure what exactly it is that needs treating first

 

[777james777]

Have you tested your water recently? Fin rot is almost always caused by poor water quality but you're doing large and consistent water changes, so if test results are good it might be something else other than fin rot. What fish is having the problems? You could post some photos for us to have a look at or a video would be better I recommend meds as a last resort, salt and clean water can sort out fin rot if that's what it is but we need to make sure what exactly it is that needs treating first

just nipped home on my lunch and transferred the poorly “head and tail light tetra” to its temp accommodation- my concern at the minute is more the swim bladder as he is all over the place.
It says 1ml of medicine to 20 litres of water.
So he’s in a 10 litre tub with 0.5ml of medicine
He’s not in great shape and don’t want to risk the spread to others sorry not the best video

 

[Lcc86]

Just a note re the Interpet stuff, it may be worth contacting the manufacturer to check if its safe for amphibians. My guess would be no given it says not to use with scaleless fish but best to check. You may have to move the frogs out if you need to dose the tank (and keep them out for a good month afterwards to dilute ahy remaining meds).

 

[Colin_T]

Need a video of the fish to identify the issue with the swim bladder and clear pictures of the fin rot.

There's no cure for true swim bladder problems.

If a fish floats up when it stops swimming it can be air in the intestine or a swim bladder issue (normally air). To test this you stop feeding dry food for a week and feed frozen (but defrosted) or live foods. If the fish swims normally and doesn't float up when it isn't getting dry food then the problem is air trapped in the intestine.

If the problem persists after dry food is removed from the fish's diet, then it's a swim bladder issue.

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If a fish sinks when it stops swimming it is normally a swim bladder issue and there's no cure. The fish is normally euthanised to stop it burning itself out by constantly swimming in an attempt to stay in the water column with the other fish.

On rare occasions some fish eat sand or gravel and that can cause them to sink when they stop swimming, but that is rare.