Sweetheart Parrot Fish?

Gill said:
digital_run said:
Paradise....theres no reason for a comment like that! You could have made your point without calling synirr gullable :/ ...This is the Friendliest Forum Around!!
What was wrong with Paradises Post, All he Said that they may be Gullable.

Sorry if that is a rude word to yourself.
Gullible = Easily deceived or duped.
I am quite aware of what Gullable means...but im not sure it was the best way to get the point across... Also some people take offense to things you may not...Were here to learn...not be told that we are easily decieved.Theres something said for being polite ;)
 
digital_run said:
Gill said:
digital_run said:
Paradise....theres no reason for a comment like that! You could have made your point without calling synirr gullable :/ ...This is the Friendliest Forum Around!!
What was wrong with Paradises Post, All he Said that they may be Gullable.

Sorry if that is a rude word to yourself.
Gullible = Easily deceived or duped.
I am quite aware of what Gullable means...but im not sure it was the best way to get the point across... Also some people take offense to things you may not...Were here to learn...not be told that we are easily decieved.Theres something said for being polite ;)
Yeah, I agree.

Besides, she's just asking a question. She didn't buy a school of them.
 
I'm late in replying to this because I forgot about this thread, but there's not need to call me gullible when you seem to be ignorant. Be aware of your facts before you start making claims... some sweethearts are bred to lack tails.
Genetic mutations like that happen sometimes, and if a breeder likes the trait, they'll breed for it. If human beings are born with horrifically deformed clawed hands and with their feet directly attached to their pelvis with no leg in-between, there's absolutely no reason that a fish couldn't be bred to lack a tail.
I'd be willing to guess that the only reason anyone ever thought of cropping blood parrot tails in the first place is because the genetically tailless ones were becoming popular.
 
cometcattle said:
digital_run said:
Gill said:
digital_run said:
Paradise....theres no reason for a comment like that! You could have made your point without calling synirr gullable :/ ...This is the Friendliest Forum Around!!
What was wrong with Paradises Post, All he Said that they may be Gullable.

Sorry if that is a rude word to yourself.
Gullible = Easily deceived or duped.
I am quite aware of what Gullable means...but im not sure it was the best way to get the point across... Also some people take offense to things you may not...Were here to learn...not be told that we are easily decieved.Theres something said for being polite ;)
Yeah, I agree.

Besides, she's just asking a question. She didn't buy a school of them.
I don't like it myself....<_<
 
the "sweetheart" parrot is a natural mutation. BUT, it does not happen too often so in order to have more "sweet hear" parrot, the breeder cuts off the tail to supply for the demand.

You can tell when the tail has been cut and when its a natural mutatiion.
 
It's a mutation which is now being bred for, so it's happening a lot more often than it would naturally...
 
Yes, they are now bred without tails. Some may have gotten their tails cut off, but for those bred without tails, you can clearly see the difference between them and the normal BP.

P.T.
 
How can a fishes tail be cut off without dieing or having severe wounds....

but also how can one with out a tail produce one without a tail, ity would def have a tail
 
of corse you can breeding fish with mutations! look at fancy gold fish, 2 tails, pom pom balls on there head, Big ulgy eyes, eww they are ugly litter bastards but ya fish can be breed with mutations, where do you think guppys came from :p j/k
 
How can you tell the difference between the breeded ones vs the mutated ones?
 
How can you tell the difference between the breeded ones vs the mutated ones?

The one's that had their tails cut off has a straight line and a gap where the tail used to be. The one's that are natural mutations has a body that meets neatly where the tail should be, like the top of a heart shape. Hope that makes sense?
 
How can you tell the difference between the breeded ones vs the mutated ones?

The one's that had their tails cut off has a straight line and a gap where the tail used to be. The one's that are natural mutations has a body that meets neatly where the tail should be, like the top of a heart shape. Hope that makes sense?

Tail-less parrots are NOT a mutation. They have their tails cut off at about 1.5" in size. If it was common for this mutation then you would see plenty of other species with no tails(convicts, goldfish, livebeares) but the ones usually sold are parrots, flowerhorns, red texas, red devils and very rarely dicus. Mostly fad hybrid fish that get dyed etc. Fish are sometimes born without tails but as a tiny fry they dont last long very few fry with any deformities survive even with human help. As for being able to tell which is natural or chopped well thats crap too. I had a young convict that lost its tail due to an attack then subsequent infection. The body healed perfectly and did not leave a gap where the tail should have been. Look at a tank full of tailless parrots and you will see there quite a variation on how their bodies have healed.

Here is an article which features a part on how to amputate a fishes tail.

http://www.twistedcichlid.netspectra.org/images/tail-less/creating_tail-less_fish_01.jpg

http://www.twistedcichlid.netspectra.org/images/tail-less/creating_tail-less_fish_02.jpg

http://www.twistedcichlid.netspectra.org/images/tail-less/creating_tail-less_fish_03.jpg

http://www.twistedcichlid.netspectra.org/images/tail-less/creating_tail-less_fish_04.jpg
 
Deformities in fish can be passes down genetically, as has been proven by Dr. Norton in one of her studies; http://www.theangelfishsociety.org/articles/norton/dr_norton%2818N%29.html

While I don't doubt that there are fish that do have their tail removed by human hands there is also the possibility of doing it more humanely through selective breeding.
 
Deformities in fish can be passes down genetically, as has been proven by Dr. Norton in one of her studies; http://www.theangelfishsociety.org/articles/norton/dr_norton%2818N%29.html

While I don't doubt that there are fish that do have their tail removed by human hands there is also the possibility of doing it more humanely through selective breeding.

Obviously, I've seen some crazy mutations though the lack of something as vital as a tail fin at the fry stage would mean that very few if (any at all) would survive and you would need the patience of a saint to breed them in large numbers. Not to mention more often than not these heart parrots are dyed. So ask yourself this, would the kind of breeder who dyes their fish spend a lot of time and effort breeding them humanely to have no tail?
 

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