Stock Suggestions

[martyn413]

Hi everyone,

After setting up a tank for my mum last may, i'm getting a tank of my own.

I'm going to get a Juwel Rekord 70 and would appreciate any stock suggestions.

I'm debating on the following and understand that some may not mix:

Tetras
corys
dwaf gouramis (never had any luck keeping these before)
Gold/Blue ram (lovely colours and beautiful fish)

I'm going to order my tank soon and get it setup doing a fishless cycle.

Thanks in advance

Martyn

 

[WILDER]

Is it possible to get a bigger tank open it up for more fish then.
Rams can be aggressive so I wouldn't recommend them in a 15 gallon.
Go to the gourami secton they will advise you on them, as fish keepers are having alot of problems with them latety.

 

[fmxmatt]

I've got a Planted Rekord 80 with the following fish

5x Neon Tetras
2x Bristlenose Plecs (1 male 1 female)
2x Angels
1x Gold Dwarf Gourami
1x Opal(?) Dwarf Gourami (Not sure if i've got the names of the Gourami right)
2x Blue Rams (1 male 1 female)
1x Red Tail Black Shark (my fav)
1x Whiptail Catfish
2x Bengal Loach (I think they're Bengal Loaches)

All get along fine apart from the Opal Gourami who stirs a bit of #### every now and again with the Gold one.

I had a couple of Cory's in the tank aswel until I moved them into the bedroom tank.

So what you are suggesting to put in there should be fine Wait and see what some others have to say first tho

 

[Tessla]

I've got a Planted Rekord 80 with the following fish

5x Neon Tetras
2x Bristlenose Plecs (1 male 1 female)
2x Angels
1x Gold Dwarf Gourami
1x Opal(?) Dwarf Gourami (Not sure if i've got the names of the Gourami right)
2x Blue Rams (1 male 1 female)
1x Red Tail Black Shark (my fav)
1x Whiptail Catfish
2x Bengal Loach (I think they're Bengal Loaches)

All get along fine apart from the Opal Gourami who stirs a bit of #### every now and again with the Gold one.

I had a couple of Cory's in the tank aswel until I moved them into the bedroom tank.

So what you are suggesting to put in there should be fine Wait and see what some others have to say first tho

80 liters works out to about 21 US gallons, you're very overstocked there.

Bristlenose plecos get to 5 inches and while you might be able to get away with one in a 20 gallon, I'd go for at least 30 gallons as they're very heavy polluters. Whiptails have the same needs as the bristlenoses and are also heavy polluters, while you might be able to get away with two such catfish with otherwise light stocking, three is really pushing it.

Angels grow rather large, while you could keep a couple in a 29 gallon (so long as it was a tall tank) that would be with very few other fish and they do need quite a bit more room.

Dwarf gouramis aren't a good idea to keep together in such close quarters as they're both likely males, same for other species of gourami.

Red tailed black sharks get large and will tear up your tank, they need a minimum of a 55 gallon aquarium with other large agressive tankmates.

If that's really a bengal loach (botia dario) then your tank is too small for those as well as they get to six inches, they also appreciate being kept in larger groups of at least four.

Now if you rehome all of the fish that are unsuitable for your tank, that would leave you with:
5x neon tetras
1x gourami (rehome one)
2x blue rams
which would leave you with a bit of room to either keep one of the catfish (either a bristlenose or the whiptail) or stock a few corydoras or small loaches, maybe 4 corydoras (larger species, a couple more if it's a pygmy variety) or 3-4 dwarf chain loaches.

Hi everyone,

After setting up a tank for my mum last may, i'm getting a tank of my own.

I'm going to get a Juwel Rekord 70 and would appreciate any stock suggestions.

I'm debating on the following and understand that some may not mix:

Tetras
corys
dwaf gouramis (never had any luck keeping these before)
Gold/Blue ram (lovely colours and beautiful fish)

I'm going to order my tank soon and get it setup doing a fishless cycle.

Thanks in advance

Martyn

That's about 18 US gallons, which would be fine for the tetras, corys and dwarf gouramis. Not sure on the rams as I've never actually kept them before, but they'd probably be fine kept in a pair with a few bottom feeders. Tetras and cories should both be kept in a group of at least four of the same species, so they'll take up a bit of room in your tank even though they're small fish.

I'd avoid dwarf gouramis because they're so prone to disease and generally managing to kill themselves in very creative ways. I've had a few (and not even recently, this was ten years ago. Recently people have been having even more problems with them) and they've only ever lived a few months, managing to injure themselves and die from infection soon after, never had any other fish with this problem. Honey gouramis are a bit smaller, you could easily keep a trio (one male with two females) with a few tetras and corys. Or try sparkling gouramis, which are smaller still, or even four or five female bettas. You may even be able to go with a single male of a slightly larger gourami species, the gourami section is full of great information.

Other fish you may want to look into:

Ottos - keep about three in a group or a few more, a very small sucking catfish that requires a mature tank. Not something that can be put in right away but something to think about.
Rasboras - there are tons of these little guys, some species are very small. Keep in schools like tetras
Kuhli loaches - small loaches that like to be kept in groups, they require a sand substrate and lots of hiding places. Very active when they feel secure.

 

[fmxmatt]

"80 liters works out to about 21 US gallons, you're very overstocked there."

I knew posting what I had in that tank would bring up this comment.

Its all about forward thinking. All fish in this tank are fairly young, therefore, fairly small compared to their fully grown adult size. Theres absolutely no reason I cant continue with this tank the way it is until the fish are big enough to rehome.

I have plans to buy a 300+ litre tanks in the next year, I may aswel fill this tank with decent sized fish rather than the tiny ones from the shop.

Dont think they're Bengal loaches, they look similar but aren't the same, what else could they be?

 

[Tessla]

Yo-yo loaches (about the same size as botia dario) or zebra loaches perhaps? Either way they'll appreciate a few more of the same species once you have the space for them.

Good you know that you're overstocked, but I wouldn't put overstocked tanks up as examples of how to stock a brand new tank of a similar size. Your post gave the impression that you're planning on keeping the tank that way (and I've seen worse) but hey, lots of people get hit with bad advice and I've had to rehome quite a few fish myself. I'd be very careful keeping fish in tanks too small for them as they can easily become stunted and there's no way to tell at what size this will happen. Fish are never too small to rehome, by the time they get "big enough" they may very well have been stunted, shortening their lives and leaving you with fish that will always be smaller no matter how big a tank you eventually put them in. Hopefully you can get that 300+ liter tank set up ASAP and avoid any damages to your fish, it's really suprising how fast some of them can grow when given the space.

 

[dwarfgourami]

For the OP, I would avoid dwarf gouramis and go instead either for honey gouramis or croaking gouramis. Or, maybe sparkling gouramis. And then a school of corys for the bottom. That should about fill the tank. I wouldn't keep rams with corys, at least not in such a small tank, as rams need a territory and corys need to be able to bumble around.

 

[fmxmatt]

Thanks Tessla, they seem to be zebra loaches. Also I wasn't posting in regards to how many fish to put in the tank, more an answer to Martyns question of keeping those type of fish together

Cheers

 

[lea]

I've got a Planted Rekord 80 with the following fish

5x Neon Tetras
2x Bristlenose Plecs (1 male 1 female)
2x Angels
1x Gold Dwarf Gourami
1x Opal(?) Dwarf Gourami (Not sure if i've got the names of the Gourami right)
2x Blue Rams (1 male 1 female)
1x Red Tail Black Shark (my fav)
1x Whiptail Catfish
2x Bengal Loach (I think they're Bengal Loaches)

All get along fine apart from the Opal Gourami who stirs a bit of #### every now and again with the Gold one.

I had a couple of Cory's in the tank aswel until I moved them into the bedroom tank.

So what you are suggesting to put in there should be fine Wait and see what some others have to say first tho

 

[nate2136]

I've got a Planted Rekord 80 with the following fish

5x Neon Tetras
2x Bristlenose Plecs (1 male 1 female)
2x Angels
1x Gold Dwarf Gourami
1x Opal(?) Dwarf Gourami (Not sure if i've got the names of the Gourami right)
2x Blue Rams (1 male 1 female)
1x Red Tail Black Shark (my fav)
1x Whiptail Catfish
2x Bengal Loach (I think they're Bengal Loaches)

All get along fine apart from the Opal Gourami who stirs a bit of #### every now and again with the Gold one.

I had a couple of Cory's in the tank aswel until I moved them into the bedroom tank.

So what you are suggesting to put in there should be fine Wait and see what some others have to say first tho

definitely sound overstocked there.........


as for martyn: i wouldnt put more than 4 maybe 6 rams in that size of an aquarium, and i would try to keep the numbers even. rams get between 2 and 3 inches, so i really wouldnt get more than 6, but probably shouldnt get more than 4. that said, i definitely think thats the best choice out of your list....cichlids are the way to go, and these will be easy to care for as they are not very temperamental.