softer water, but now peat/dark coloured

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Hi,

I've (usually) always hard fairly hard water (15 - 20 gh) :no:

My LFS said it was probably the gravel. So, i tested it (take some out, dry it off - then add some ph minus to it. if it bubbles, or even smokes, then thats the prob). It did bubble/pop a bit, but not much. I DONT fancy changing all the gravel! any ideas?

while at my LFS, they told me to try a bioplast filter insert for the juwel range. So, i did. And it really works! Previously, simply putting in peat extract didnt do anything! But this baby lowered the gh in hours!! It also keeps a good PH level too! :nod:

BUT, this has come at a price. The water is now darker, peat coloured. It may be more natural, but I prefered it when it was clear! Can i achieve a low gh level, but with nice clear water?

cheers!

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Tank details: Juwel Rio 180 (180l capacity), Temp: 27c, Nitrate: < 5mg/l to 0 mg/l, gh: 12, ph: 6.5 / 7
Fish: 3 blue gourami (2 male, 1 female), 2 dwarf gourami (1 male, 1 female), 1 male siamese, 1 female
8 neon tetras, 3 clown loaches, 1 plec, 4 guppies (now with 5/6 fry)
water changes: once a week. 25-30%
AND one fish cam here
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Bite_Me limited ideas on the water colouration other than adding carbon to the filter as this takes chemicals and discolouration from imperfect water.

BUT...

Cool Web Cam on the tank!!! :hyper:
 
Hi Bite Me

Nice Fish Cam.

You could try adding some activated carbon to remove the colour from the water.

Dolphin
 
Hey,

There is carbon in the filter too! but, it's been there since I got the tank, about 9 months ago - does this need changing? how often would you change the carbon?

cheers guys!!
 
bite_me said:
Hey,

There is carbon in the filter too! but, it's been there since I got the tank, about 9 months ago - does this need changing? how often would you change the carbon?

cheers guys!!
Most people recommend every couple or three weeks as carbon then loses it's effeciency and in some cases can start to leak the contaiminents it removed back into the tank....... So looks like maybe another trip to the LFS, sorry.... :D
 
My LFS said it was probably the gravel. So, i tested it (take some out, dry it off - then add some ph minus to it. if it bubbles

What do you have in your tank then??

If it start bubling when pouring acid on it, it would probably contain CaCO3, but...

CaCO3 is almost insoluble into water, only acids or acidic water. So, if your water is neutral or basic, gravel doesn't change your water values. Because pH is about 6.5, it may dissolve alittle, but not much.. Gravel may contain CaSO4 which will dissolve water good. What about your tap-water? Is it hard?

Are there any decorations that could be increase GH? If not, best way is to change gravel to sand (if only your tap water is soft, not hard. If it's hard then the change doesn't help at all).

Clown loaches need bigger tank...
 
tap water here is hard (but the tank is harder) -_- but because of this, i've tried RO water, this was fine for a day or so, but soon became hard! as for decorations, i dont think so. nothing that would effect gh? live plants, and some bog wood (cleaned, pre soaked etc)

Clown loaches need bigger tank...

why? they love it?!! (esp. the snails). They are only small/young, around 2"
 
just tested again,

tap water is 17gh, tank is currently 14 (back up from 12 -_- )
 
why? they love it?!! (esp. the snails). They are only small/young, around 2"

Well... The fish will grow bigger - do you have tank for it when it's too big in your tank? http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSum...ry.cfm?id=10897

If you keep fish that grows big in small tank, it will stay stunted. Environment effects its growing as much as food quality. However, clown loach grows fairly "slowly".

Because your tap water is hard, it's best and easiest way to change fishes from soft/acid water to hard/basic. Then you only have to raise pH up with baking soda :)
 
Hi Bite_me

If the RO water reduced the hardness, for it only to come back, then it must be somthing in the tank that is producing the higher hardness levels.

The only fish that need soft water in your tank, are your neons. If they are healthy then there is no need to adjust the hardness.


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