Soft water 35cm cube stocking

RO is perfectly valid and safe to use, and is better than their tap water source. They know what they're doing with RO, saltwater is not the same as freshwater and most do have to use RO to get it right with the salt for their setups.

They have experience with it, I'd have no concerns with them adjusting it to levels where a particular fish would need it. I'd be a little more wary with a novice trying it because it's a little bit extra to learn, but someone who already knows how to manage it, this isn't a difficult task to manage.


Sure, it's "easier" for most people to get fish that suit their tap water. But sometimes, especially in cases like OP's with liquid rock water and high nitrates straight from the tap, RO is actually the better option. 50ppm nitrates to start will kill a lot of fish, it's not safe. My cories would drop like flies in that amount of nitrates and so would my apistogramma. Even on tougher fish, 50ppm nitrates is a constant stresser on fish and will affect their immune system being under that constant stress. You won't have long lived fish with it. And to lower those nitrates is a lot of work, more work ironically than using RO and remineralizing the water to levels you want.

Ideally, people shouldn't chase parameters, but sometimes it's necessary. And I do believe this case it is necessary. And even if not, if someone wants to keep certain fish but doesn't have suitable water and they want to go the RO route, people shouldn't tell them off for that as long as they do it safely and properly.
 
Agreed. I thought I was doing everything right and my fish were healthy. I also thought it was normal to make a trip to the LFS every year to restock what had died, cos after all fish are only little and don't live very long.

Once I realised that was wrong and switched to RO it meant I could keep anything I liked, and my tanks did not all have to be the same. Now I am down to two tanks they are actually quite similar - but I happen to like soft water fish.
 
Agreed. I thought I was doing everything right and my fish were healthy. I also thought it was normal to make a trip to the LFS every year to restock what had died, cos after all fish are only little and don't live very long.

Once I realised that was wrong and switched to RO it meant I could keep anything I liked, and my tanks did not all have to be the same. Now I am down to two tanks they are actually quite similar - but I happen to like soft water fish.
I was doing the same thing. But once I started using RO water after about two year and a half of having fw and was sometimes looking at going every 8 months that is when my tap got really bad. Now when all the tanks in the household use RO we have fish that are actually 5+ years old and still going strong with only guppies and neons not lasting longer than two years.
 
I have a scarlet badis in a similar size tank and also use remineralised RO water as my tap water is rock hard. They are remarkably entertaining little guys, but quite intelligent so I make sure to mix up his environment from time to time. The tank is also heavily planted and he will only eat live food which seems to be common with badis. You could even try a pair with a female if you can find one, I did consider it but I've heard they breed very easily and I don't have a way to offload the fry so I decided against it.
 
I have a scarlet badis in a similar size tank and also use remineralised RO water as my tap water is rock hard. They are remarkably entertaining little guys, but quite intelligent so I make sure to mix up his environment from time to time. The tank is also heavily planted and he will only eat live food which seems to be common with badis. You could even try a pair with a female if you can find one, I did consider it but I've heard they breed very easily and I don't have a way to offload the fry so I decided against it.
Brilliant. That is good to know. Hopefully I could be able to locate a pair or trio if possible.

Thanks for the reply.
 
The only drawback is that often many sold as female are just sub males, sub males will make themselves appear female and the dominant will keep their color. Females, in most areas, can be extremely hard to find for scarlet badis. If there is any orange whatsoever on the fish, no matter how little, assume it's a sub male.

Same fish:

When i bought him
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After some time
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The only drawback is that often many sold as female are just sub males, sub males will make themselves appear female and the dominant will keep their color. Females, in most areas, can be extremely hard to find for scarlet badis. If there is any orange whatsoever on the fish, no matter how little, assume it's a sub male.

Same fish:

When i bought him
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After some time
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Yeah. I think it took me purchasing nearly 15 fish before I managed to get on female.

Thanks for the reply.
 
I also have rock hard water, so I've been on RO now for a little over a year, after restarting my tanks, after a 25 year break from the hobby... 25 years ago, rift lake cichlids were about all that would thrive... BTW I also used to do salt, and fresh tanks... and only do fresh water now... I see your biggest challenge, as tank size and shape... I have a couple apisto's, and with enough filtration, you could maybe try a pair, but that tank is pretty limited on space...
I have 4 - 10 gallon tanks, best intention of being holding or quarantine tanks... a year ago, I got 2 breeding colonies of Cherry shrimp, from different sellers, ( bigger gene pool ) and put them in the same 10 gallon, with a pair of fancy high fin sun set platy's... I probably have over 100 shrimp now, and continually remove juvinal, fancy platy's out of that tank... I've begun to seed some of my community tanks, with cherry shrimp... some small ones disappear ( live food ) while the bigger ones add color to my tanks... I do a blend of RO, and well water in the shrimp tank, and have 2 new colors ( orange and yellow ) coming for two of those 10 gallons, as well as a few more smaller live bearers, I'm still researching... for the shrimp, I only run a double size sponge filter, and have had such good luck with the cherries, and platy's that I'm setting up 2 more, and once I move a cichlid from the 4th, I will either keep that as a quarantine tank, or may also set that up, as a tank for blue shrimp, and another smaller live bearer...
 
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I also have rock hard water, so I've been on RO now for a little over a year, after restarting my tanks, after a 25 year break from the hobby... 25 years ago, rift lake cichlids were about all that would thrive... BTW I also used to do salt, and fresh tanks... and only do fresh water now... I see your biggest challenge, as tank size and shape... I have a couple apisto's, and with enough filtration, you could maybe try a pair, but that tank is pretty limited on space...
I have 4 - 10 gallon tanks, best intention of being holding or quarantine tanks... a year ago, I got 2 breeding colonies of Cherry shrimp, from different sellers, ( bigger gene pool ) and put them in the same 10 gallon, with a pair of fancy high fin sun set platy's... I probably have over 100 shrimp now, and continually remove juvinal, fancy platy's out of that tank... I've begun to seed some of my community tanks, with cherry shrimp... some small ones disappear ( live food ) while the bigger ones add color to my tanks... I do a blend of RO, and well water in the shrimp tank, and have 2 new colors ( orange and yellow ) coming for two of those 10 gallons, as well as a few more smaller live bearers, I'm still researching... for the shrimp, I only run a double size sponge filter, and have had such good luck with the cherries, and platy's that I'm setting up 2 more, and once I move a cichlid from the 4th, I will either keep that as a quarantine tank, or may also set that up, as a tank for blue shrimp, and another smaller live bearer...
This tank will only do tiny fish. The apistos will be for either a 3ft I am setting up or the 6ft. Probably a pair of licorice gourami.

I don't really want to do live bearers because I will need to add a lot to the RO to build it. And I do prefer the soft water fish. And this tank is soft to the point that cherries will not get on well with their moults.

Have you tried tiger teddies before? Lovely tiny fish. Tiny live bearers the size of young guppies. Loved keeping them before.

Thanks for the reply.
 

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