So My Tanks Ready!

I've also heard that bettas get stressed in tanks of over 10 gallons because they feel the need to patrol the entire area. I would recommend getting a separate 5 gal for your betta if you want to keep him. Bettas are fun, they stay small, have beautiful finnage, and are very hardy. I love em. Also, I wouldn't house a male with any number of females unless you're an experience betta breeder. They are extremely aggressive fish and I would recommend keeping them alone. You can keep 5 or 6 betta females in a larger tank, though, provided that you have lots of cover (BTW, in case you don't know, the males have the long elegant fins and the females have fins that are shorter and usually less brightly colored)

Depends on the kind of pleco you have. If you're pleco looks like this: http://www.tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/te...iles_L021-1.jpg

Then he is a common pleco. Those can get to 2 feet long, although they grow pretty slowly, and they're pretty decent beginner fish otherwise. There are some rarer varieties of pleco that don't get too big at all , but you would have paid much more for them and odds are that you have a common pleco. They should be fine for a while, but you may have to give them to someone with a bigger tank somewhere down the road.

The mollies are livebearers, so its better to keep one male (you can tell because they have external genitalia, known as a gonopodium) with 2 or 3 females, and keep that ratio so the males don't bother the females excessively. On a side note, your mollies are preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty.

Good luck!
 
bettas can be kept in any sized tank over 3 gallons IMO, the bigger the tank, the better.its just a myth that they get stressed from big tanks, ofcorse having 1 male in a 55 gallon, its going to feel lonely,but with suitable tank mates, alls well
 
Not necessarily a myth, fishboy. Many people have found that their fighters are a lot happier when moved from a big tank to a smaller one. For some it works, others it doesn't.
I used to have a male in a 48G with Minnows and tetras. He used to live in one corner of the tank and only popped his head out a t feeding times or when the neons nipped him. Sadly he died from an infection. The four Bettas I have now are kept in their own 5G tank and are perfectly happy and healthy. They are forever making a little bubblenest and love having a swim around their tanks.
 
Just another tip,

Make sure you keep on top of those plecs, they are pooping machines.
Can easily send your nitrates sky high, mine did.

good luck
 
Are these plecos in your new tank?
If you want to add a pleco to your new tank, go with a smaller one like a clown, rubbernosed, bulldog, bristle nosed, etc. There is a thread in the catfish section that lists a bunch of the smaller ones: http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=132656

As for keeping male bettas with females, don't do it. It won't work. If you want to keep females in the tank, go with atleast 4 or 5 to help spread aggression out.
 
hi, so you've heard a few different opinions so far.

i have a betta that looks just like yours, he's in a 120L tank with a variety of guppies, silver mollies, platties and others but no angel fish (yours are great) what im saying is that it depends on the actual character of the fighter you have. mine (SAM) is the most delightful friendly little fellow in my tank, the mollies dont bother him at all and viseversa....... the only thing that concerned me once was when i added my fancy platties, i thought that they would'nt get on but after so much mixed reviews on fighters i was willing to give it a chance. when they were finally introduced all my betta did was flirt like crazy with both the male and female platties and now they often just follow eachother around a even feed happily together, i think it helped that i got my betta from a community tank so he was used to being with other fish. i think that it is wrong to confine these lovely fish in the old fashioned way in TINY tanks and they go fine with most fish. they are one of the most intelligent of fish and will eat out of your hand everytime when they get used to where their food comes from. if he has come from one of those small awful tanks then i take my hat off to you and praise you for rescuing the poor little fellow, but it comes to one thing that i tend to agree with.....angels are beautiful but a prone to being aggressive to most other fish so dont be surprised if they do have a go at your male fighter, i would personally put the angels in a tank on their own and who knows you might find you got a breeding pair. but keep your fighter with the community he should be ok (thats if he's used to other fish) if not give him time. it would also be a good idea to treat your tank for white spot as mollies get stressed during transportation and this can cause white spot so prevention is better than cure. go back to your supplying shop and ask for treatment for whitespot or one that does a variety of illnesses. otherwise as a learner you will find that your fish will be killed by this. have a close look at your mollies if there is any tiny and i mean tiny white spots that look like zits then that is it. treatment is simple just make sure you get the measurements right. i would do it anyway as most suppliers use the same water cycled thru all tanks and desease spreads quickly. also do it when you add some more fish to prevent it happening. if you got a bottle of water conditioner add that to your tank (recommended dose for your tank) with new arrivals as well, this will reduce the stress they might have been caused. remember when feeding with flakes only one flake the size of you small finger nail once a day is sufficient for each fish. clean the filter every 2wks and make sure that every part has been cleaned, do this in water that has been taken from the tank not under the tap, once a week or since you have'nt got many fish once a fortnight change 10 per cent of your water and if you change it with normal tap water then treat again with correct amount of water conditioner.

these are the basics for you to start with so good luck........dont be put off if you lose some fish its part of being new to it and you'll get used to the first signs of trouble before it gets out of control.... theres nothing wrong with learning from mistakes.

dont be put off by the way in which some people might put themselves across they dont mean it, were all here to help you. its like recieving a text and is sometimes hard to understand the intention of the message. Darren


one last thing...hold on for atleast two weeks before you add any more fish, dont add any female fighters ,read up or ask questions here for advice on what is best for a newcomer to this great hobby.
 
Cheers for all the advice, its greatly welcomed! :nod:

The guy in the shop said they were a breeding pair, they'd been together for along long time and even laid eggs . . . he said nothing came of it though!
That sound right or like hes giving it the old billy bulls**t?
 
Cheers for all the advice, its greatly welcomed! :nod:

The guy in the shop said they were a breeding pair, they'd been together for along long time and even laid eggs . . . he said nothing came of it though!
That sound right or like hes giving it the old billy bulls**t?

The plecos or the mollies? Because mollies don't lay eggs, so if he told you that he was definitely lying or ignorant.
 
I am easily confused (it's my age lol), but are the plecs in your bigger tank or your 30l?

Even the smallest species of plecs aren't suitable for a 30l, if they're common plecs they should and will hit 12" in the first year, if kept in the right conditions - even without the proper sized tank they will grow incredibly quickly.

I'd rehome them asap - as they're not really suitable for your bigger tank either, although if you were planning a 75g+ (commons need a min of 4ft x 18" x 18" just to be able to move around ok) you might be able to keep one in your bigger tank temporarily for a few months ;)

If you wanted to keep all three, you'd be looking at 6 x 2 x 2ft/180g roughly to give them enough territory each.
 
I have three plecs, The biggest and the smallest are in my small tank, they're not staying there though. I put the middle plec in the big tank to help out with the new fish! I was told to give it a week or two before i start migrating the fish back to the big tank. The big plec will go back to the big tank when the times right. I guess once they get to big ill do something about it but for now they all seem happy!
 

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