Should I Termintate Last 2 Fish?

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have been medicating for three weeks 70% of fish have died 2 different meds not working.... (ick)
tried api general cure and now using jungle ick guard....
water temp up at 30 c, added marine salt .... they keep dying....
is it now more humain to kill last 2 and clean tank and start over?
 
that answers everything...lol.... what i want to know is are the fish in pain or suffering.... ... i am wanting to know if shawn assisted death is more humain at this point....
 
There are times when euthanasia is the best course, but I'm going to advise fighting it to the bitter end, even though if I were in the situation I'm not sure if I would.

I read over your thread in the emergency section, and some people there have helped you with mistakes you made in treatment. I'll also add that the marine salt was probably a mistake. Aquarium salt (not the same thing) has some treatment value (I've not found it useful over medication and temperature increase), but making a freshwater tank brackish to treat a disease probably isn't a good idea. It might kill the parasite, but at the cost of stressing the fish and furthur weakening them.

Anyway, the reason I suggest fighting it out is the experience - keep water stats in check, measure your doses, follow the treatment to conclusion, etc. Don't panic and try multiple radical treatments, as the stress of incorrect medication (general cure) followed by a second round of treatment, sudden change in salinity, and so forth all only serves to weaken fish and counteract your hard work.

They might just survive, and that'll be great. They might not, but you'll get useful experience in the meantime. If they don't make it, switch to a fishless cycle (even if the tank is fully cycled) for a couple weeks for the ich parasites to die off without hosts (or until the filter can process the ammonia and nitrite in 12 hours as per fishless cycling, in case the biofilter has been damaged by the salinity change or medications or has died off as the fish population declined), then do a big water change and begin stocking again, this time with less erratic reactions, particularly if you deal with additional illnesses.
 
Completely agree with Corleone here and to further his idea I'd like to say that if one or both of these last fish were to pull completely through, the feeling you would have for them would be special, not only because you would know they are tough little fish themselves but also because you would feel good about yourself for sticking through it with them. Likewise, even if they don't make it, you will be able to feel good that you stuck it out with the toughest ones and tried to help them as much as you could.

The experience caring for them is invaluable because its harder to develop a skill that is exercised less often. Thus, by definition, skills of caring for individual diseases will not be as developed by any of us.

Finally, Corleone makes a point that I agree with and even feel strongly about. The action of a beginner operating a fishless tank, especially one with plants and nearly or fully cycled is a much more valuable experience than we give it credit for. Getting practice doing a gravel clean water change without having to dodge fish, for instance, is a helpful type of practice. The whole experience gets the aquarist used to the habits without the dangers to or the distraction of the fish themselves. This is, at its best, what the final week of "qualifying" a newly cycled filter is all about. It gives the beginner a chance to see what the test results should feel like and how the whole maintenance routine should feel and then when the fish go in, they are the happy recipients and for the aquarist they can feel like a nice reward.

Some people, even experienced hobbyists, will dismiss this kind of thinking as ridiculous, feeling that a cycle is a horrible thing, to be rushed though as fast as possible, any way possible. I think that's a poor approach, because of what can be learned. The fish, once they are in, will easily command the aquarists greatest attention. For a beginners especially, its better if that attention is allowed to rest on the other aspects of the tank a bit first!

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