should fish be given away

stivhixon

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I recently got my first aquarium- a 30 gallon. I always had fish when i was younger but my omly job was to feed them, I recently found out its a lot harder than that. I took my LPS advice and bought the tank, poured in stess zyme put some fish in the next day. At the time i had 4 mollies and some neons. As the mollies started to die(2, the noens made it) soon after. Not knowing anything but trying to save them I read the gravel should have beeen clean and any decorations should be cleaned off, so in desperation I thought the water was dirty and emptied it :sick: put fish back in one mollie died, one came back to life right as i wass going to flush him, and then i put in the stress zyme- that actually saved the molly that came back from the dead, in the process I also lost a couple of neons. Now I think the water is ok because the fish seem happy, so I go and buy a few more fish over the next few days- to be exact as of right now, after a month of having the tank-I have 2 gouramis, 4 tetras, 5 neons, 2 chine algae eaters, 2 angel fish( I know im retarded). Fish seemed fine, then 2 neons died, I went to the LPS and told them, they said to test the water (I didnt even know that was important), ph was 7.2, nitrites 0, nitrates 0, and ammmonia somewhere between 2.0 and 4.0. I keep putting this amonia-loc stuff in but from what someone told me in one of these room is that all I am doing is keeping the tank from cycling but saving the fish. If the fish have to cycle with the tank- ammonia levels and nitrite levels are going to soar :dunno: so my question is- can I keep these fish alive if I stop puttting in the ammonia loc, or should i give them away- or anything in between? thanks for the help- sorry i had to write a book to tell you the story, I could still type 5 pages :whistle:
 
Ok, i think what you should do is cycle the tank first.

So if yo can, remove the Angels, Gouramis, tetras and neons and ask if your LPS can hold them for you for a couple weeks. (buy the way, try and find a local fish store instead of a pe store, they are specialised and will offer you more precise and accurate info).

Cycling your tank involves allowing time for beneficial bacteria (which convert poisonous nitrite into nitrate) to build up in your filter media and gravel.

You can ask the LPS if they would share someof their filter media with you to cycle it quickly. You dont really have time for a fishless cycle i dont think. Keep the chinese algae eaters in because they are as tough as old boots, and hopefully, should survive and help cycle the tank.

Buy a book. A decent one. Maybe off ebay, about keeping tropical fish! :nod: It does involve more than what ppl think, but its well worth the effort.

Testing the water is very important, if not crucial in knowing what i gong on in your tank. Again, a book should help explain these things!

Maybe someone else can think of somethng ive missed?

Anyway, goodluck, and anymore questions just ask away! :)
 
i agree.....instead of buying a book go to the libary and read em for free....would he be able to cycle with the fish as long as he watched the stats closely and did partials everyday...maybe several small ones a day?
 
Maybe, but i still think that many fish so early on would create too much nitrite and ammonia for the simple water changes too handle. :)
 
I cycled with a full load and kept everyone alive. He's already well into the ammonia. I'd do a VERY large water change to begin with--50%-60%, then continue with a 10% water change every day plus 20% once a week. That should keep the fish alive, even neons.
 
Keep a close eye on the fish. Test your water daily or twice daily if possible. Change water as needed, with cycling it will probably have to be daily. The cycling will last a little longer than it has to but your fish loss should be minimal...but you will probably lose more I'm sory to say :-(
 
Never buy fish the day u bought ur new tank :). But back when I was new to this hobby I made the same mistake as u do. But I didn't buy any expansive fish. All the fish I got was feeder so it ain't as hurt as some of those expansive one. And also you can go to ur local library and get some books about tropical fish keeping and read them first so you wouldn't be making as much mistake as rest of us as we begin. Good luck
 

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