Serious problem

[AJ356]

That you might not ever be able to clean the impellor is not necessarily a bad thing.

I am probably in minority. For me, the best thing about Juwel tanks is actually that filter. I've had all kinds of Juwel tanks over probably a 20 year period. I might have been lucky. Never had a filter issue and never cleaned an impellor.

You can still get to the filter media. There are other reasons for noise sometimes.

 

[AJ356]

I am assuming the filter is running? If not, ignore my entire post, sorry!

 

[Country joe]

I removed the filter from my Rio 125. I did it during a water change as you need to saw through those silicone blobs which causes a tidal wave in the water, so removing half the water meant none ended up on the floor.

The sponges can be cut up to make them fit a different filter.

I have always thought about a canister,, but never had one the look complicated to me. Plus l would have to modify the tank lid for the hoses. But I suppose the lid could just lie on top, the one I looked at was a fluval would I be able to get some sponges from the juwel filter to fit in, as fish would be in the tank, and I suppose adding Goop could also be beneficial

 

[Essjay]

The lid is made of something which could easily be cut if necessary, just to make the gap large enough for a pipe to go through.


Something to be aware of - if you remove the filter, let alone cut the lid, you'll invalidate the warranty. Not that it stopped me removing the filter after a couple of months.

 

[Country joe]

The lid is made of something which could easily be cut if necessary, just to make the gap large enough for a pipe to go through.


Something to be aware of - if you remove the filter, let alone cut the lid, you'll invalidate the warranty. Not that it stopped me removing the filter after a couple of months.

Sorry for going on a bit Essjay, I'm thinking of the fluval 207 external filter, with fish in my tank, how many sponges would I have to replace into the canister to lose no fish, and would it also be worth adding goop to the new filter?

 

[Country joe]

Ive been looking at what I can do on the net, the one I favour is,
If I buy the fluval 207 which I like the look of, the advice I've seen that would be easy, add the ceramics from the internal filter, also some sponge, have two filters running for a month, then take the old filter out, would this work having fish in the tank?

 

[Essjay]

Looking at videos of the 207, there are a blue sponge and 2 white pads sitting vertically at the back of the filter. There are 3 baskets. The bottom one has a black sponge covered with a floss pad; the middle basket has ceramic rings; the top basket has carbon.

The easiest thing , if this were me, would be to empty the cirax into the middle basket then put coarse blue sponges on top of the cirax, cutting them to the shape of the basket so there's a snug fit round the edges. Then the fine blue sponge in the top basket, and again cut up any left over blue sponge and the green sponge to get a snug fit. If there are any gaps between sponge and basket water will go through the gap rather than through the sponge, so a snug fit is important. Looking at videos, the baskets seem quite large compared to Juwel sponges so they should all fit. If there's actually more space than the Juwel sponges can fill, more sponge can be added.


You could run both filters together but think about the media in the 207. You don't need to run carbon full time so you that leaves the top basket empty. Sponges are better biomedia than the ceramic noodles. If I was starting a tank with this filter and didn't have any media from another filter, I'd swap the carbon and noodles with new sponge anyway. You have mature sponge already, so I'd put that in that in a 207.



One final thing, check the dimensions of any external filter to make sure it'll fit in the cabinet. There have been members in the past who bought a filter then found it wouldn't fit.

 

[Country joe]

Looking at videos of the 207, there are a blue sponge and 2 white pads sitting vertically at the back of the filter. There are 3 baskets. The bottom one has a black sponge covered with a floss pad; the middle basket has ceramic rings; the top basket has carbon.

The easiest thing , if this were me, would be to empty the cirax into the middle basket then put coarse blue sponges on top of the cirax, cutting them to the shape of the basket so there's a snug fit round the edges. Then the fine blue sponge in the top basket, and again cut up any left over blue sponge and the green sponge to get a snug fit. If there are any gaps between sponge and basket water will go through the gap rather than through the sponge, so a snug fit is important. Looking at videos, the baskets seem quite large compared to Juwel sponges so they should all fit. If there's actually more space than the Juwel sponges can fill, more sponge can be added.


You could run both filters together but think about the media in the 207. You don't need to run carbon full time so you that leaves the top basket empty. Sponges are better biomedia than the ceramic noodles. If I was starting a tank with this filter and didn't have any media from another filter, I'd swap the carbon and noodles with new sponge anyway. You have mature sponge already, so I'd put that in that in a 207.



One final thing, check the dimensions of any external filter to make sure it'll fit in the cabinet. There have been members in the past who bought a filter then found it wouldn't fit.

Thanks, the most unusual advice I read, was on removing the filter, knifes and blades appear the most popular, but one person said he used nylon fishing line and it did work, which I feel unusual. If I got the sponges and the cirax and I've also got a bag of ceramics into the canister, can I then just take the old filter out, and just run the canister, and the fish would be safe.

 

[Essjay]

I used a long thin kitchen knife. Anything which can cut through a blob of silicone is OK, whatever it is.


As long as you manage to get all the Juwel filter's media into the new filter, you can add the media that comes with the new filter to top up the baskets. It's the media which holds the majority of bacteria, so cram as much of the old media as possible. Yes you will lose the few bacteria on the plastic filter casing, but those will be just a small proportion of the total number and they'll make up the loss very quickly.