seems like everyone is talking about "breeding"

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... & I wouldn't mind devoting some time towards that ( when I actually have some time ) so, my tanks are set up like community tanks, typically I find a heavy stocking makes pairing up challenging... if I were to get a couple that insist on trying, I hope they can hang on for another year or so... that's not to say that I don't try to set up things, in case, ( to quote from the Jurassic Park Movie ) "nature finds a way" I try to provide a lot of cover... for example, I've witnessed group spawning of my Rummy Nose Tetras, a few times... wigglers would have a challenging life as crowded as I run my tanks, but there are a couple massive Pothos vine, root balls that would make excellent Fry cover, to help them avoid the predatory Angel in the tank ... but nothing so far... I have a group of King Tiger Plecos, that I actually made a half hearted attempt at getting them a breeding spot... I think conditions are about right, so every couple weeks I inspect their cave with a flash light , but so far no eggs or fry... I took these pictures this morning, nothing so far... there are 2 King Tigers in the cave... and 4-5 in the tank, so these two chose each other...
I do have intentions to try to get more serious with any potential pairings that show up, when I retire in a year or so... & I'd like to start with the King Tigers, & maybe the Gold Nugget Plecos, if I can get a couple, more to put in with the one I've had a couple years now...
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I may be the one who talks most about breeding fish. When I get a fish, it's usually because I've researched about it. Most of my fish would be considered rare in the hobby, and that would make them expensive and hard to find, if I hadn't developed a network over my many years in the hobby.
So if I get a fish I like that only lives 2 or 3 years, I will soon either say I used to have it, or breed it and continue to enjoy it generation after generation.

If it is very expensive, but I know it's a social creature, can I always afford 10 $25 uncommon "new" tetras? Nope. I'm retired. Can I "make up" a group with a little learning and a little work? Maybe. It's always worth a try. Maybe I can afford a couple of females and a male or two. Then, I can have a lovely shoal within a few months, if I'm willing to work at it.

There's something satisfying about looking at a shoal of (inexpensive but stunning) cardinal tetras moving across the base of a tank, and knowing some of them began their lives in a fishtank in my place last winter.

I have a 40 gallon paludarium variation tank with no fish in it but Chromaphyosemion poliaki. When I got them, 20 years ago, these 3 year lifespan fish were a very commonly imported killie. In the small world of killiekeepers, they drew some snobby reactions when I talked about them. They were common killies. They usually came in Cameroon shipments then.

Then the mountain they lived on was developed for one of my other great loves, coffee. The forest with its cooling canopy was gone. C. poliaki became a threatened species on the IUCN red list, and is apparently even worse off now than it was when that was assessed over a decade ago. I can't save a species, as my lifespan as a human is far less than that of a species. But I breed them, and maybe a dozen other people have gotten them from me and liked them enough to breed them too. If the fish keeps spreading in the hobby, maybe future generations will at least be able to see it.

Without breeding in tanks (combined with habitat preservation that isn't happening), it would just be a few old photos to us.

Plus, you watch a fish swim. Then it swims more, After that, it swims. Take a tetra, for example. Many people say they're boring. But try breeding one. It'll keep you busy, make you think and maybe defeat your attempts. It becomes a puzzle, and a challenge. There's great satisfaction if you succeed in breeding it and raising a group to adulthood. Then you can start again, with an active hobby. It's like buying bouquets of flowers versus gardening.

So, there's cheapness. If you want 50 tetras, buy 10 and give it a go.
There's rarity - there are a lot of aquarium species that have gone from the hobby, and some have become extinct. You can't wish them back.

There's really learning. I keep a killie collected by some French guys in 1989. It's beautiful. I acquired some in 1992, and was told I was too inexperienced to succeed with them. I worked at it, and learned with them. I still have that line, a favourite fish that is older (as a breeding line) than my adult children are.

Several attempts to find it again in the Republic of Congo failed. Its habitat is now a palm oil plantation. But in 2022, some other French guys found a way into a narrow ravine with a Spring fed brook. It's a tiny microhabitat surrounded by a mega farm that finds it useless because it's too steep and hard to access. They found my fish for the first time in 33 years, and I now have young from their collection in a 10 gallon. Yesterday, I saw the first hint of colour in a dorsal - I have at least one male. Will my breeding stock have changed their appearance in captivity?

I'll soon know. I'll breed them as a separate line, without mixing them, and see if they are as difficult as I found the 1992 ones. Maybe it was me, not knowing how they worked that was the reason for the trouble. I'd like to know that.

My original pair died in 1994, and by now, I would have forgotten a lot of details had I not bred them. I've had a lot of fun with that fish since then.

I keep lousy records and am not a list keeper. But I have a plaque from the breeder's award in my local club that says I'd submitted forms for 90 fish by 2009. I recall having about 30 more done and filled in that I didn't bother to take in, and I've bred about 5-10 new species a year since then. I figure I've bred around 200 species, and I have learned something I've enjoyed learning with every one. Just looking at them wouldn't be as satisfying.

So yeah. When you can get the time and resources, try it!
 
Linda is on a mission to learn about breeding. She is doing well with her Molly and Swordtails, both relatively easy of course. Sometime in the early winter she plans on trying her hand with Super Red Pleco. She says she still has much research to do.
 
This is a good place. I don't focus on catfish, but there are some people here who could help. Advice is free, and there are people here who will give excellent guidelines. The fish won't read it, and who knows if they'll cooperate.
 
This is a good place. I don't focus on catfish, but there are some people here who could help. Advice is free, and there are people here who will give excellent guidelines. The fish won't read it, and who knows if they'll cooperate.
We plan on buying literate plecos.
 

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