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I want to know how many SAEs can I keep in a 33G. Occupants are a 2" BN pleco and 7 harlequin rasboras. Is it essential that they be kept in groups? Is it OK if I just get 1? If I get 2, will they be aggresive towards each other? Thanks for any replies!
 
No, they're not the same. Not agressive and don't stop eating algae as they grow older.
 
>>> are same as CAE

An SAE is nothing like a CAE.

SAE are a naturally shoaling fish, so should be kept in groups. With this species, I'd say at least 3 fish. There are people that advocate keeping either one or a group of 3 or more. I do not believe a naturally shoaling fish will be happy alone, and will always carry a residual level of stress from being in an atypical situation.

The fish grow to 150mm in captivity given adequate quarters, so theoretically, you could keep a group of 3 in a tank that small, but they will lack swimming space, and it is far from ideal.
 
I was quoting from your own post. Perhaps if I quote your entire post it will be less confusing?

>>> If these are same as CAE then I think the answer you going to get is none.
 
Didn't know they were a naturally schooling fish LL. Thanks for that piece of info. Can't imagine keeping a cardinal tetra or harlequin rasbora in a tank by itself, and I guess it's the same here. I've never seen more than 2 in a tank, so that's why it never occured to me they might be schooling fish. Do you have any stories of people that have kept just 1 SAE? Thanks for the replies guys.
 
SAE should do fine. Though I used to have some CAE in my old tank and they got to be really agressive and terriorial. They also get a lot bigger that SAE
 
No, I think that last post was comparing the suitability of an SAE to a CAE. siamese algae eaters and chinese algae eaters are entirely urnelated and I see nor eason to mention CAEs in the first place (the two are often confused though, realy, they look very different).

I would not suggest keeping a single SAE in any size tank but there are alternatives - flying foxes, crossocheilus oblongus and the 'false' SAE are all best kept alone and will all eat algae - though, admitedly, not quite as efficiently. Of the afformentioned, the flying fox is the most aggressive but also the most attractively colored. It is also the least efficient algae eater. My personal favourite is c. oblongus, which is adorable :wub: and also eats algae quite well. Both it and the false SAE (garra cambodgiensis / taeniata) are often sold under the name SAE and in mixed groups of the three. They are not any more aggressive than SAEs but can be quite territorial with similar fish and therefore do best either alone or in groups of 6 or more to spread out aggression. They get to about the same size and are also quite active as well - so a single one is your best option.

If you want something that's better at eating algae than any of those 3, otos would be the way to go dispite being a little fragile and dispite the fact that they are strictly herbivorous and won't scavenge fallen fish food or eat flakes like the other fish (which all the other algae eaters mentioned here will do readily when they aren't eating algae).

Having said that, unless you want SAEs for their looks or character, an algae scraper has always been my preffered treatment for excessive algae (plus pin-pointing the cause and correcting that is the first thing you should do - adding more waste-producing fish isn't going to do anything to solve your root problem).

BTW, if you don't now how to identify the different algae eaters, feel free to PM me with your e-mail and I'll send you some pics off the internet + descriptions of each (I have a document saved to my computer that I can't post but I can deffinately send to you if you need it).
 
No, no - you misunderstood me (well i suppose I didn't actualy explain what I meant in the first place)... I don't mind that CAE got mentioned. I just find it realy annoying how LFSs have managed to market the CAE so that people now consider it when they think of algae eaters. I mean, the CAE is so unsuitably named - it's not chinese, it's not a real algae eater - even it's other name 'sucking loach' is incorrect as it's not a loach. I've said this before, I'm sure :p The only part of the name(s) that is not misleading is the 'sucking' - as they do suck (and take that either way)... So, yeah, I also think of CAEs when someone mentions algae eaters and I see nothing wrong with your mentioning it but I find it frustrating that people have been made to think of it (if you get what I mean? :p).
 
Thanks for taking the time to reply sylvia! :) I wanted to get a SAE because somone from my local aquarium society was getting rid of 5 adult SAEs, and for a real good price as well. But from what I've read so far, and the replies in this thread, I think I won't be getting any. I already have a BN pleco in my tank but it doesn't eat the same kind of algae, and algae removal is the main reason I was thinking of getting the SAE (I like the way they look as well though). I know I should be getting to the root of my algae problem, but going the SAE route is a much easier solution. :p I've a few pictures from this website, and I've saved the pictures as well.
 
That was the link i was gonna gve you! :lol:

I keep 3 SAE's in my planted 30g (In hein-sight that probably wasnt a good idea). They are getting very large, and need removing very shortly (tried, but its too much of a hassle ATM). As they have gotten older, they eat nothing but the prepared food I place in the tank for my other species. All points which Sylvia has pointed out. :thumbs: No aggression is shown, but a clear size difference has developed between the 3, helping them develope an order of heirachy.

In your situation (similar to mine), id suggest you opt for several otoinculatus rather than the SAE. They are smaller, consume nothing but algae, and do a great job of removing it from leaves and stems of plants. :)
 

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