Rummy Nose Wiped Out In 6Hrs

[ez_101]

Just done another water test:
PH: 7.6
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite:0ppm
Nitrate: 5ppm

Tank temp: 27.5C

 

[mark4785]

Anyone have any ideas what may have caused this? should i be doing daily WC or maybe treat the water?

What signs were the fish showing before they died? Perhaps try to remember what behaviour they demonstrated the day before.

Have you done any excessive water changes (i.e. over 50% of the water taken out) and used replacement water which was too cold or too hot? Also, how frequently do you do your water changes and clean your filter media? If it's less frequent than 1 week it could be suggested that the chemical variables of the water in the tank (i.e. PH, KH, GH) have changed considerably to the variables of the replacement water to the point that it was a 'shock' to the fish when you introduced the replacement water.

A low nitrate level of 0.25 ppm may imply that that your nitrogen cycle isn't converting waste efficiently. In the peak of summer my pond was infested with blanketweed and other higher plants which absorbed lots of nitrate, yet I still had a reading of 5ppm of nitrate. Pond water variables are very different to that of a tank but 0.25 ppm is still a uniquely odd value IMO.

 

[ez_101]

Anyone have any ideas what may have caused this? should i be doing daily WC or maybe treat the water?

What signs were the fish showing before they died? Perhaps try to remember what behaviour they demonstrated the day before.

Have you done any excessive water changes (i.e. over 50% of the water taken out) and used replacement water which was too cold or too hot? Also, how frequently do you do your water changes and clean your filter media? If it's less frequent than 1 week it could be suggested that the chemical variables of the water in the tank (i.e. PH, KH, GH) have changed considerably to the variables of the replacement water to the point that it was a 'shock' to the fish when you introduced the replacement water.

A low nitrate level of 0.25 ppm may imply that that your nitrogen cycle isn't converting waste efficiently. In the peak of summer my pond was infested with blanketweed and other higher plants which absorbed lots of nitrate, yet I still had a reading of 5ppm of nitrate. Pond water variables are very different to that of a tank but 0.25 ppm is still a uniquely odd value IMO.

There behaviour was normal swimming back and forth across the fron of the tank and feed fine!

I aim to do a water change once a week - 10days 30-40% i wash out the sponges once every 6weeks and change the pads once ever 3-4weeks.

Im sorry the nitrate wasnt 0.25 it was 25ppm i input the 0. by accident!

I didnt do anything different in the water change the day before so i am suprised if they were shocked?!

 

[KittyKat]

Change the pads? Which filter do you have? How much of the media do you change in one go, in terms of %?

25 and 5 ppm nitrate is more like it, nothing wrong there then.

The GH and KH can easily change more in one week than another if, for example, you have something even so small as some extra bacterial activity in the tank. Without test results from back then, it's impossible to tell if this is the problem or not. As an example, my water hardness between various tanks and the tap water can vary by as much as 10 degrees, which is enough to kill some species of fish, so I need to drip acclimatise even when moving fish between my own tanks, let alone when doing a large water change.

 

[ez_101]

I have a fluval 5?! its the carbon pads i change one at a time and that perhaps makes up 15-20% maybe less?!

I dont measure the water hardness as i dont have the kit for that, can you recommend one for me please? and what parameters should i be aiming for?

When adding new water i have to use a watering can due to the location, but this is poured in gently

 

[ZoddyZod]

is the watering can ONLY used for fish tank water changes?

If it's used for gardening, is there a chance any plant ferilizers, weed killers, etc could've got anywhere near it?

 

[ez_101]

is the watering can ONLY used for fish tank water changes?

If it's used for gardening, is there a chance any plant ferilizers, weed killers, etc could've got anywhere near it?

Hi no its only used for water changes, i live on my own in my own pad you really i would be gardening?! lol joking

 

[KittyKat]

Hmm thanks for the advice, i did have common snails a while back but dont have them now, im not sure what the asasin eats tbf as im not around when its out and about.

Without food, it is quite likely to starve, so you probably want to check if it will eat fish foods.

I have a fluval 5?! its the carbon pads i change one at a time and that perhaps makes up 15-20% maybe less?!

Fluval don't apear to have a filter which is called just "5", is it maybe a "105"? It is at least an internal or external?

At any rate, carbon pads are used up in a matter of hours to a few days, so unless you replace them at least once per week, there's no point replacing them at all. They also should not be needed in a healthy and well balanced aquarium, as their predominant benefit is their ability to remove medication from the water.

I dont measure the water hardness as i dont have the kit for that, can you recommend one for me please? and what parameters should i be aiming for?

I use API, the parameters themselves don't matter *that* much as long as you're not keeping hard water fish in soft water, what matters is that they don't change. It is, of course, always best to get them roughly right, but it's better not to mess with them as changes can cause death.

Hi no its only used for water changes, i live on my own in my own pad you really i would be gardening?! lol joking

No houseplants and a helpful family member?

 

[ez_101]

Thanks kitty kat for your very welcomed advice, my filter is I ternal fluval U3 (no idea where I got the 5 from) and I just change the pads as per the filter instructions, should I not bother then?!
Snail eats left overs apparently which is good.

Nope all on my own, no house plants just shrubs in the garden lol

 

[eaglesaquarium]

Don't change the filter media until it is falling apart, literally. Just give it a rinse in old tank water every month or so. When you notice the media starting to go, put new in, and cut the old one up and fit it in.

 

[KittyKat]

I also recommend that you don't change the pads at all, unless they're falling apart. If they get dirty, just clean them in old tank water. When you do need to replace them, I recommend that you replace at most one at a time, and if possible, leave 6 weeks between replacing.

 

[Xraymark]

Yeah my fish kept dying shortly after introducing them. New tank not cycled but all water parameters 0. so ammonia was not the factor. Took 6h for fish to die. Still do not know what was the cause.

I am fishless cycling at moment and have changed eveything in my tank in case something pollutant wise was the cause. Bought Prime as alot forum users are using this.

still nervous once cycled and add my full bio load I may end up with dead fish.

 

[ez_101]

I also recommend that you don't change the pads at all, unless they're falling apart. If they get dirty, just clean them in old tank water. When you do need to replace them, I recommend that you replace at most one at a time, and if possible, leave 6 weeks between replacing.

I only replace one side at a time normally once every six weeks, but if im ok just to rinse them out and re use i will do that as it will also save m some £££

Thanks

Yeah my fish kept dying shortly after introducing them. New tank not cycled but all water parameters 0. so ammonia was not the factor. Took 6h for fish to die. Still do not know what was the cause.

I am fishless cycling at moment and have changed eveything in my tank in case something pollutant wise was the cause. Bought Prime as alot forum users are using this.

still nervous once cycled and add my full bio load I may end up with dead fish.

My tank isnt that new and i did a fishless cycle before adding anything, took around 4-5 weeks but worth it.


I am now thinking i could of got a bad batch of these from the LFS, who knows?! all my other fush are fine and water is mesuring spot on.

Thanks for all the advice guys and girls

 

[eaglesaquarium]

still nervous once cycled and add my full bio load I may end up with dead fish.

Don't add your full bioload at once then. Add maybe half at one time and see how they fare. Its better to start small and build up, rather than jump into the deep end of the pool when you don't know the depth.

 

[ez_101]

right, after checking my fish tonight one of my cardinal tetra's has a white dot at the end of its body near its tail fin.
its just one not raised though.
could this be related? any ideas what it could be?

Cheers,