Rtc Eating Probs

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hi i am new to this and i was wondering if anyone can help me i have a 14inch rtc which is in a 6ft tank and im having problems bringing down the ammonia levels and now ive tried feeding him his usual salmon chunks he seemed to eat them ok until the next day i noticed them in the tank can anyone help also hes in with a large plec who seems to keep chasing him around the tank can anyone help me with this matter :nod:
 
Id be more concerned about have a 6ft tank with a fish that can reach 5ft in lengh.
 
What filtration have you got installed, how long has the tank been running and how often do you feed your fish?

Your immediate problem is caused by an insufficient amount of bacteria to deal with the amount of waste that is being produced. Both plecs and predatory meat eating fish like rtc's produce a lot of waste. If your filtration is not adaquate enough to cope with the fish waste and any rotting left overs then that will explain the ammonia spike. To rectify it, you'll either need to increase the biological capacity by adding another filter/or upgrading your existing one or reduce the amount of food you are giving your fish. Increasing water changes will help in the short term and provide some relief for the fish but it won't solve the problem.
What else are you feeding him other than salmon and where does this salmon come from, ie lfs, tinned from a supermarket? Another rtc owner would be able to advise you better but I would of thought salmon, while good as a treat is not a terribly good main diet. Although, the existence of ammonia in the tank may well explain his loss of appetite.

How big is the plec and do you know what type of plec it is? With the minimal amount of information on the tank that you've provided I would guess the problem is territorial. A 14" rtc I'd imagine uses pretty much all of a 6ft tank and the plec I'd guess just wants to be left alone. So he's constantly having to chase him away from what he classes as his area (which is somewhat difficult when you're 14" in size and only have 6ft to roam). Providing a bogwood construction where the plec can get away from the rtc might solve your problem (assuming it is territorial) but owning an rtc means you'll eventually need to get a far bigger tank than the one you currently have if you wish to house him properly in the future. Although many would argue that that time has already come.
 
What filtration have you got installed, how long has the tank been running and how often do you feed your fish?

Your immediate problem is caused by an insufficient amount of bacteria to deal with the amount of waste that is being produced. Both plecs and predatory meat eating fish like rtc's produce a lot of waste. If your filtration is not adaquate enough to cope with the fish waste and any rotting left overs then that will explain the ammonia spike. To rectify it, you'll either need to increase the biological capacity by adding another filter/or upgrading your existing one or reduce the amount of food you are giving your fish. Increasing water changes will help in the short term and provide some relief for the fish but it won't solve the problem.
What else are you feeding him other than salmon and where does this salmon come from, ie lfs, tinned from a supermarket? Another rtc owner would be able to advise you better but I would of thought salmon, while good as a treat is not a terribly good main diet. Although, the existence of ammonia in the tank may well explain his loss of appetite.

How big is the plec and do you know what type of plec it is? With the minimal amount of information on the tank that you've provided I would guess the problem is territorial. A 14" rtc I'd imagine uses pretty much all of a 6ft tank and the plec I'd guess just wants to be left alone. So he's constantly having to chase him away from what he classes as his area (which is somewhat difficult when you're 14" in size and only have 6ft to roam). Providing a bogwood construction where the plec can get away from the rtc might solve your problem (assuming it is territorial) but owning an rtc means you'll eventually need to get a far bigger tank than the one you currently have if you wish to house him properly in the future. Although many would argue that that time has already come.
 
What filtration have you got installed, how long has the tank been running and how often do you feed your fish?

hi thanks for your reply i have an ehiem external filter which also is the heater and i have an internal filter aswell i have only had the tank for 3 weeks and i do a water change every 2 days as i was wold by someone at pets at home ifeed him prawns,mussels and salmon which is the fresh variety from the counter this is what i was told when i bought him the boy who had him in a 3ft tank in a shed and i now only feed him twice a week.the plec is a common plec which is about 12/13 inchs long he did the same when i put another plec in beside him which i later removed to my other tank
 
Out of curiosity (like hearing about large builds), are you ugrading to a larger tank? because alot of people choose to keep RTC in tropical ponds due to the immense size :)
 
How long have you had your tank for ?
hi darrel i have only had the tank for 3weeks as i had a 4ft tank which i recently emptied when i bought the catfish so i bought it for him i also bought a large expensive external filter/heater for it aswell and i have an internal filter to and i dont know why they cant cope with the ammonia in the water as there is only two fish in it the rtc and the plec
 
3 weeks old and its already got those fish in it? No wonder theres an ammonia problem! Better read up about cycling :)
 
Out of curiosity (like hearing about large builds), are you ugrading to a larger tank? because alot of people choose to keep RTC in tropical ponds due to the immense size :)
hi i think i will have to be giving him a new home as i live 3floors up and dont know if my floorboards will take any bigger
 
Out of curiosity (like hearing about large builds), are you ugrading to a larger tank? because alot of people choose to keep RTC in tropical ponds due to the immense size :)
hi i think i will have to be giving him a new home as i live 3floors up and dont know if my floorboards will take any bigger


Fair dos, in that case you better start looking now :p finding people with spare 1000+gallon tanks isnt easy!
 
3 weeks old and its already got those fish in it? No wonder theres an ammonia problem! Better read up about cycling :)
both of the fish were in my 4ft tank which was transfered to the 6ft tank all the water aswell just topped up with fresh water then ive changed the water every 2 days and fed them less thanks for your comments
 

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