Rescape or Restock...

Restock or Rescape

  • Rescape

    Votes: 4 100.0%
  • Restock - Dwarf Puffers

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Restock - Tanganyikan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

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Hi I've hit a point with one of my tanks where I want to have an over haul and I'm not sure what to do so thought I'd ask my friends here.

The tank is an Aquascaper 600 which is 100 litres 60cm x 50cm x 40cm. Its got an Oase Biomaster 250 filter and a Twinstar 600SM light with a controller. My tapwater has a ph of around 7.2 and the hardness varies a little through the year but lets call it 17 gh as an average. The current fish are a group of 5 Red Eye Red Tail Puffers (1 male, 4 females), 17 Glowlight Danios and 6 Amano Shrimp.

I've had the setup for about 2 years (nearly 3 but didnt have fish in for nearly the first year). There are a few reasons I'm thinking of changing things up, first is I've used Tropica Aquarium Soil and after 3 years I think it is fully spent and I'm not seeing the same plant growth I have in previous years and a pretty serious BBA issue is growing... so I need to fix that soon. It irks me that I ignored advice early on about how hard my water is and would rather embrace that now, but my fish are a few years old so is me moving them on really the best for them? Lastly, I sit next to this tank all day and the fish in here are not that active - the Glowlight Danios sometimes school nicely in a big ball but it does not seem consistent and they spend most of their time in the denser planted areas of the tank. The tank used to be in a different place where it you saw it as you walked about rather than sit and stare at it, so when the puffers saw you they came out and you got a good 5-10 min interaction but when I'm sat here they just lurk away (as they naturally do) and are not that bothered - so often the tank does look pretty empty a lot of the time...

The obvious route I could take is to get a group of Dwarf Puffers, I only recently realised they come from a harder water habitat with 10-20 gh recommended. IMO the Puffer Fish community is far and way the least flexible and most judgemental of any part of the freshwater hobby but even by their recommendations in a 100 litres 10 is a good number and at those levels I'd get some decent activity and they are more active than the Red Eyes. I could then keep them with a school of Lake Inle Rasboras - Emerald, Red Dwarf, Rummy Nose or the closely related Galaxies - a big school of at least 20 of one species would be great. I think the Amano Shrimp are likely to be ok in this set up too.

The other thing I am tempted by is a Tanganyikan tank, unfortunately there are no options from Lake Malawi for this size tank. I'd be restricted to most likely one species but I may be lucky with 2? If it was single species tank it would be a shell dweller, possibly Lamprologus Ocellatus Gold or maybe the slightly larger Lamprologus Caudopunctatus. If I were to try 2 species it would be Altolamprologus Compressicep Sumbu Shell with either Lamprologus Multifaciatus or Simmilis.

Or do I keep as I am since the red eye puffers have been here 2ish years, get some new plants rescape the tank to a way I'm happier with, big deep clean - reset the algae problems. I've got some wood set aside already to do this and a shopping list ready to go (actually nearly ordered it this morning to do at the weekend but then came to this conundrum)....

I've added a poll so people can help me decide :)

Wills
 
Not voted ;)
Have you considered the low tech path? That tank seems to have taken up a huge investment in time and it sounds like you are frustrated ...
(I know its not what you want to hear)
 
Not voted ;)
Have you considered the low tech path? That tank seems to have taken up a huge investment in time and it sounds like you are frustrated ...
(I know its not what you want to hear)
I'm not sure what I want to hear tbh haha - it is a bit frustrating as its so close to being enjoyable but not quite there right now.

It is currently a low tech set up really - its got a high end light on but only at 50% power and it has aquarium soil in but thats it, no Co2 and just a basic fertiliser (Tropica). Should have mentioned if I do an other planted tank (with either my current fish or new ones) I want to try a substrate called Wio Eonion which is billed as having a longer term nutrient base, they claim upto 10 years and it does not release ammonia when added to a tank which is something I'd use for the base of the tank maybe in bags and then cover it with a fine sand. Its not that expensive and I don't see a downside to trying it so think its worth it :)
 
I would get a second tank, so you can keep your current fish and get some new fish as well. I would redo your current tank, and make both of them look really good and maybe try to make the aqua scape bring out the fish by having taller plants in the back. Can you send a picture of your current tank to get an idea of how it looks.
 
I would get a second tank, so you can keep your current fish and get some new fish as well. I would redo your current tank, and make both of them look really good and maybe try to make the aqua scape bring out the fish by having taller plants in the back. Can you send a picture of your current tank to get an idea of how it looks.
Haha! Good idea - the funny thing is I am planning an other tank in this room so I have a total of 4 then. The 4th tank is a 90cm shallow tank that would most likely be for some Tanganyikans but if I did them in this tank I'd possibly do something else in that one.

The problem with my current fish is that my water is in an ideal world, too hard for them and thats the sticking point for me and has been for a while... I can definitely get them to an store that would put them into homes with more neutral water but after 2 years with me is that in their best interests?

I need to clean my glass to get an up to date picture but here are a few from recent months. The Limophilla has grown quite a bit since these pics though and I've had to throw out my mini monsterra as it was starting to die off - kept a cutting though so it lives on!

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I care 🙋‍♀️ I was just about to post with a rescape in mind. Shaking up the environment might encourage the fish to come out more and it will be something new for you to look at 👍🏻 have you got a scape in mind?
 
I care 🙋‍♀️ I was just about to post with a rescape in mind. Shaking up the environment might encourage the fish to come out more and it will be something new for you to look at 👍🏻 have you got a scape in mind?
Sorry didnt mean to be a diva haha

I want to do a better version of what I've got now basically - I've bought some river wood which is quite tall and a few smaller branches that will sit on some of my current rocks but less of them.

Just ordered a big batch of plants from Aquarium Gardens, got quite a lot :)

Anubias Nana Coin, Trident Fern, Taiwan Moss, Lobelia Cardinalis 'Mini', Crypt Balansae and Helanthium Tenellum. I'm going to try and keep all of my Limnophilla that is growing well at the moment, might try and keep some of my Narrow Ferns but quite bad algae on them, few small crypts and a bit of Lilliaopsis or possibly Dwarf Sag that is still growing quite well in here.

Ordered some frosted window film as well to replace the black as I don't like it in this tank, a lot more sand for the substrate too as currently not enough in there to plant properly which has been a failing in this set up.

Also got some Lucky Bamboo on order too which might not be here this week but its coming, hoping I get on well with it as I think I'll prefer the vertical growth rather than the trailing pattern of other riparian plants.

Hoping to achieve something a bit like this but with taller plants around the back and a diagonal composition
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Oooh nice choice in plants! Lobelia never did well in my tank, I hope you have better luck with it. The Balansae will be an interesting watch, I know it grows really tall so you'll likely have a fair amount of surface cover from it in 100 L, which is ideal for your puffers confidence, hopefully you'll see them more often
 
Oooh nice choice in plants! Lobelia never did well in my tank, I hope you have better luck with it. The Balansae will be an interesting watch, I know it grows really tall so you'll likely have a fair amount of surface cover from it in 100 L, which is ideal for your puffers confidence, hopefully you'll see them more often
I got the Lobelia as I've not done it before and wanted to try something new but lets see how it goes... bit worrying since we have similar water... Hoping the big crypt will do well, I want it to replace my Valis as it takes over and goes too dark for me (I might keep a big of Valis though). I know some people put Balansae and Crispulata in Tanganyikan tanks so taking that as a tip it does well in hard water.

I don't think the puffers feel they dont have enough cover, they just lie pretty still 80% of the time, they all have their own little nook in the tank they just sit in all day. If I get within a foot or so they swim straight out but just waiting for food - they are an interesting species as I don't think there is any data on them from the wild, no footage, field reports etc so all we know about them is from the trade. Which was the same for Dwarf Puffers until someone in India started filming native fish and we got footage back of them swimming in schools... and a field report of pretty hard alkaline water...
 
Regarding the lobelia, I was told it didn't work because its not a true aquatic plant? I don't know how true that is as many plants can adapt, you'll have to keep us updated with it! I think it's quite attractive, if it works for you I'll have another go.

I've never kept puffers so I couldn't say they don't already have enough cover nor would I suggest you haven't provided for them adequately! The extra overhead cover may or may not make a difference in their activity, it will be interesting to see but whatever happens I think it will be stunning
 
Regarding the lobelia, I was told it didn't work because its not a true aquatic plant? I don't know how true that is as many plants can adapt, you'll have to keep us updated with it! I think it's quite attractive, if it works for you I'll have another go.

I've never kept puffers so I couldn't say they don't already have enough cover nor would I suggest you haven't provided for them adequately! The extra overhead cover may or may not make a difference in their activity, it will be interesting to see but whatever happens I think it will be stunning
Thats interesting I've gone for this one from Tropica which is the tissue culture version and should already be growing in its aquatic form so maybe this will have more of a chance to get going.

https://www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/lobelia-cardinalis-mini-tropica-1-2-grow-5543-p.asp

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