Red Sea Max 130d For A Beginner?

[Aaron87]

hey guys totally new to this however have been looking through books and forums for a few months now, basically i started off wanting a bi-orb with a marine convo kit... thoight this would prob be best for a beginner however after really looking into it every seems to say there ok as long as u dont follow the basic setup they instruct you to implement?

After looking into stocking and such i thought for what you can actually keep in them theres not much point. so i then looked at the red sea amx 130d which also advertises itself as a "plug and play" reef system however im also not so sure on that.

i now feel that i could could setup this tank without too many issues i just wanted peoples opinion on the tank itself?

possibly home for

a pair of clowns
a dwarf puffer or dogface puffer
possibly a blue jaw trigger

if this is even possible...

im sure u have this all the time so thanks for any reply's i recieve

 

[BigBeginner]

pair of clowns = sure

any type of puffer = NO WAY! sorry, too small

bluw jaw trigger = no way also

sorry but 34 gals is not enough for a trigger or puffer, and definitely not both, they need huge tanks to be happy

the tank its self is easy to set up (im guessing because it looks similar to oceanic biocubes), but there are certain modification that are needed with "plug and play" tanks but i wouldn't know exactly what mods because i've neer had a redseamax tank, so someone else will have to help you with that.

 

[bronzecat]

Hi Aaron

Welcome to the salty side

As BB says, a pair of clowns are good, but Puffers & Triggers are a non starter. I have just set-up a 40gal reef tank, as long as you get everything organised and work through methodically you'll be fine

I'm going to have a pair of clowns in mine, along with (possibly) a purple firefish and a carpenters flasher wrasse. They are beautiful fish.

I'm sure you'll find lots more that would fit into a 34gal

 

[Aaron87]

ah ok i didnt know that about puffers as i read on a caresheet that:

The majority of dwarf owners keep theirs in small setups of 5 to 20 gallons (19L to 75L).

Even though they are small in size, dwarves need roughly 5 gallons per fish to have adequate space.

is this the case if u only keep dwarf puffers on there own, just total rubbish or just because im new to the hobby?

 

[Truck]

ah ok i didnt know that about puffers as i read on a caresheet that:

The majority of dwarf owners keep theirs in small setups of 5 to 20 gallons (19L to 75L).

Even though they are small in size, dwarves need roughly 5 gallons per fish to have adequate space.

is this the case if u only keep dwarf puffers on there own, just total rubbish or just because im new to the hobby?

dwarf puffers are 100% freshwater

 

[Aaron87]

ah i see now, thanks for that.. so basically if i want a puffer fish i need to be thinking of a 100gal tank.

would it be possible to have the above in a 100gal tank?

is there much more maintenance needed with a larger tank or would u advise to just start off slow with a smaller tank?

 

[seffieuk]

ah i see now, thanks for that.. so basically if i want a puffer fish i need to be thinking of a 100gal tank.

would it be possible to have the above in a 100gal tank?

is there much more maintenance needed with a larger tank or would u advise to just start off slow with a smaller tank?

The more water the easier it is to keep the environment stable

The RSM is an expensive tank for what you get and imho looks awful There are many other options out there have a read of the current journels and threads to get some ideas

Seffie x

 

[Aaron87]

there seems to be a few puffers like the fuji which are happy within a 50+ gal tank

is this correct?

 

[BigBeginner]

there are maybe 2-3 species of saltwater puffers that MIGHT be happy in a 50 gal but i would say they would be MUCH happier in a 75-100 gal tank

and larger tanks:

Pros:
easier to maintain good water quality
wider range of stock choice
less often topoff
much more nice looking if well kept
more impressive to guest

Cons:
large water changes
more expensive, equipment wise and electricity (small tanks are still expensive)
hard to get around in (if its deep)

 

[SkiFletch]

Hey Aaron, to the salty side. You could keep a Valentini puffer in that size tank if you wish

 

[Aaron87]

ok so im now thinking of getting the juwel 350 stats as below..... id really like your opinions with what equiptment would be best suited for this tank?? also would they above fish be alright in this size tank from what i understand it would be fine?

thanks for your help im sure u have all had this before!

The Trigon 350 Aquarium and Cabinet by Juwel is equipped with:
High-Lite light unit including tubes 55cm, 2 x 24w, 100cm 2 x 45w
Bio Jumbo filter including pump set 1000 and filter media
Heater 300 Watt
Volume: approx. 350 Litres
Aquarium Measurements: 123 x 87 x 65 cm
Cabinet Measurements. 123 x 87 x 73cm

 

[rabbut]

Ooooo, a bit of an upgrade then

I'd personally ditch the internal filter (cut it out) and the pumpset also, as you can't realy fit any type of guard to the Juwel pumps If it's a pred tank, I'd look at skimmers that can do a 200g system, and add 35KG of Live Rock for the main filtration. Obviously with Live Rock as your main bio-filter you will need at least 2 (probibly nearer 4 in that sized tank) powerheads for flow. You need about 7000lph of flow in there idealy

All the best
Rabbut

 

[Aaron87]

thanks for the advise il have a look into the skimmer.. any brands i should stay clear of?

is there not a way to just mod the juwel filter and pumpset guards? or are they too wak for the flow needed in a FWLR setup... not even sure if fwlr is correct??

 

[rabbut]

You could modify the Juwel filter by changing the media for LR rubble and Phosphate remover if you realy want to keep it, but it's an eye-sore and a potential nitrate factory in a marine application. They have loads of dead zones within them that collect debris where it rotts

With skimmers, look at Tunze, Deltec and Aquamedic my side of the pond. SkiFletch or someone else will tip you on US skimmers if nessisary Redsea skimmers are to be avoided like the plague though...

 

[Truck]

You could modify the Juwel filter by changing the media for LR rubble and Phosphate remover if you realy want to keep it, but it's an eye-sore and a potential nitrate factory in a marine application. They have loads of dead zones within them that collect debris where it rotts

With skimmers, look at Tunze, Deltec and Aquamedic my side of the pond. SkiFletch or someone else will tip you on US skimmers if nessisary Redsea skimmers are to be avoided like the plague though...

are TMC's any good rabbut? sorry for the hi jack