Raising Ph For Snails

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Which is the best method for keeping the ph high for snails?

My snails shells have been getting kinda bad recently..

I add ph up everytime I do a water change, but I don't know how well it's working.

Doesn't baking soda raise the ph to 7.6 or something like that. No matter how much of the stuff you add.

or is crushed coral easier?

I don't even know where to get crushed coral or how much it is..

Any help is appreciated
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Which is the best method for keeping the ph high for snails?

My snails shells have been getting kinda bad recently..

I add ph up everytime I do a water change, but I don't know how well it's working.

Doesn't baking soda raise the ph to 7.6 or something like that. No matter how much of the stuff you add.

or is crushed coral easier?

I don't even know where to get crushed coral or how much it is..

Any help is appreciated
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Crushed coral is better. You can get it at your lfs.
 
I perfer baking soda just because it can be "dosed" and weighed. That and I don't know anyone who doesn't have it in their kitchen.
 
Yea I kinda figured baking soda is already around so it might be easiest.. and I know it will only raise it to a certain ph, so you cant really overdose it.

Any idea how much realistically I should add? Like tablespoon wise?

Thanks
 
Tried here? :)

Although personally I don't like using it. If your water is acidic, It can quite frequently not contain enough calcium and other elements essential for snail shell growth. I would presume that's why you always see snails grow faster in harder more alkaline water (or at least they seem to) and why perfect pH 7 RO water is useless unless you are adding the right minerals for them.

The reason the pH raises with Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) is that it brakes down into Sodium and Bicarbonate ions, most of the Bicarbonate then brake down further into CO2 and Hydroxide. The majority of the CO2 usually gasses off before it forms Carbonic acid, and since Hydroxide is mildly alkaline this raises the pH.
The remaining Bicarbonate buffers the water against relatively small pH changes (so bogwood or limestone in your tank shouldent affect pH).
Problem is if you run out of Baking Soda and need to do a water change, your pH is affected a lot depending on how much baking soda you had to use to raise the pH above 7.
The second thing is, the buffer doesn't work for ever. If you were simply to go without water changes, the pH would quickly start to change (depending on what's in the tank).

Adding Sodium Bicarbonate doesn't do much help to snails other than preventing the shells corrode in the acidic water (it provides Sodium, but this is of relativity minor importance).

The best way to increase the pH in your tank is something like sea shells, crushed coral or even limestone (all provide calcium).
Calcium is the most important element you have to provide for healthy shell growth. The other elements that invertebrates in general need are usually present in large enough quantities in tap water (enough for freshwater inverts anyway). However, it's always good to provide extra of these, and IME it can speed up growth and bring out nice markings in things like tadpole snails (mine now all have a lovely greenish mother of pearl sheen).
My preferred way of doing this is using Kent/red sea reef supplements.
The best supplement IMO is Red Sea Calcium +3, since it's pretty much all you would even dream of adding in one bottle, where as if you went the kent route you would spend more on buying more bottles.
But remember never to rely on these additives, they are called supplements for a reason :).
 
i have crushed coral and i dose with kents calcium boost for marine tanks.

snails benefit for a high in calcium diet to keep there shells strong, include dandilion leafes,( free outside as long as you know there is no chemicals on them)

watercress , parsley , beetroot leafs, spinich in small amounts etc.....

clean water high calcium food and calcium boost , thats the key.

sharon
 
This is good for the snails too...but should be noted if the water is acidic the shells will still corrode, just slower because the shells are stronger :).

Really if your water isn't acidic you don't need to worry, but that's very good for the snail.
 
So do they actually eat the cuttlebone?

I would see them on the small piece of cuttle bone on a regular basis and it sure looked like they were eating it. It would also slowly dissolve some KH into the water which is good for my goldfish anyhow. I just dropped a small piece along the back of the tank where they would often be crawling along eating any algae or missed food that ended up in the cracks between the gravel and glass.

I have hard enough water and high pH so I wasn't worried about that aspect but I wanted them to get KH in their diet also... but I'm not into a lot of fresh veggies around here. More of a caveman mentality in my cupboard and refrigerator, so the cuttle bone pieces worked for me! LOL
 
I use liquid calcium, and feed them cucumber and spirulina wafers.

I just thought there might be an easier method to keeping the ph high rather then doing water changes, then raising the ph .2 everyday for 3 or 4 days.
 

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