Questions About Betta Breeding

[Neal]

I don't see where you are coming from, why will they die soon if I don't take them out of my tank? Like I said I have had them for a year, and they have hardly grown, they swim around happily with each other and to be honest, I described it to someone and they said it was a black moor, also my mam said its a black moor, and my tank doesn't have a heater, so they aren't in the best of heat. I live in the UK and we don't get racoons or anything, the only thing that could eat one is a cat, but he has had the pond for a long time and he has plenty of fish in it, i'm sure two more won't hurt!

 

[happyannie]

Goldfish can withstand pretty low temps. I googled about black moors cuz I'd never heard of them before and the site I read said they get to be 4" inches long. I have comets which can also withstand low temps but get to be 12" long. No one can tell you what to decide about them. It doesn't look like they get to be so huge. I'd suggest googling for more info!

 

[Neal]

Well, if they get bigger I have permission to put them in the pond, and if they will die in the pond, ill find someone with a big tank.

 

[tidytourniquet]

4in for a black moor is still tiny, they can get pretty big. I have heard of them getting to be 8in in under a year if given the right conditions. Since yours are over a year old they are very stunted they may not ever grow, their organs still will though, that is why they should be in a bigger tank.

 

[Neal]

I have moved my black moors downstairs now, but these fish at first lived in a vase, then they went to a 15G tank, then a goldfish bowl, and now a hex tank.

 

[pica_nuttalli]

some basics about Black Moors:

1 ) Black Moors are classified as "fancy goldfish"

2 ) fancy goldfish:
---have been specially bred for hundreds of years to produce certain characterisitics
---typically have unusual body features, such as extra long fins or bulgy eyes
---typically only grow to about 8 inches in length

3 ) fancy goldfish should not be kept with common goldfish because fancies:
---typically don't swim as well as common goldfish can swim
---won't grow nearly as large as common goldfish
---are likely to be nipped by common goldfish
---cannot compete for food with common goldfish
---are not as cold-resistant as common goldfish

4 ) because of their breeding, fancy goldfish should be kept in:
--- water that will never drop much below 40F
--- water that will never rise much above 75F
--- at least ten gallons of space per fancy goldfish
--- groups (goldfish are very sociable)

5 ) kept properly, a fancy goldfish should:
--- be a very active swimmer in the middle of the tank
--- grow to an adult size quickly
--- live for 15 years or longer
--- always be interested in food (but that doesn't mean it always needs to eat! )

your black moors would be perfectly happy if they lived in a 20g filtered tank kept at room temperature. that would be much better for them than putting them outdoors with commons.

 

[happyannie]

Yup--good info there! There are other predatory animals in the UK besides raccoons --maybe foxes--that might like a tasty fish treat to supplement their diet. It's too much of a chance to put a pet outside.

 

[Neal]

Wow, some interesting facts, they swim around happily together in my hex tank though, and they are the right size for it so personally I don't think there is any need at all to move them, they don't seem to be showing any signs of unhappiness, and it's not that I don't appreciate your information, it's just I don't think its neccesary, they swim around the centre of the tank and look very happy. When I had a common goldie in the tank, one of them swam at the bottom, and as soon as he got moved he was a new fish, I thought he was ill at first, he was just scared and the common goldie was too big for the tank, so I put him in a pond, but these two black moors haven't grown and look very healthy. To be honest, they might not even be black moors as what people have been saying about their size, isn't true about the two I have...

 

[supersixone]

Wow, some interesting facts, they swim around happily together in my hex tank though, and they are the right size for it so personally I don't think there is any need at all to move them, they don't seem to be showing any signs of unhappiness, and it's not that I don't appreciate your information, it's just I don't think its neccesary, they swim around the centre of the tank and look very happy. When I had a common goldie in the tank, one of them swam at the bottom, and as soon as he got moved he was a new fish, I thought he was ill at first, he was just scared and the common goldie was too big for the tank, so I put him in a pond, but these two black moors haven't grown and look very healthy. To be honest, they might not even be black moors as what people have been saying about their size, isn't true about the two I have...

your fish arent growing because you are MAKING THEM SICK. the tank is too small; they're poisoned in their own wastes. their outsides may not be growing but their internal organs are. this will lead to a painful and untimely death. the very fact that they are NOT growing means you are not taking good care of them. i've been told by goldfish aficionados that a goldfish should be growing at least 4 inches per year when they are young, or there is something wrong.

 

[Wisperian]

your fish arent growing because you are MAKING THEM SICK. the tank is too small; they're poisoned in their own wastes. their outsides may not be growing but their internal organs are. this will lead to a painful and untimely death. the very fact that they are NOT growing means you are not taking good care of them. i've been told by goldfish aficionados that a goldfish should be growing at least 4 inches per year when they are young, or there is something wrong.








-gives a standing ovation-

 

[Synirr]

I have personally seen a 6" black moor. If you fish aren't growing, it's not their breeding that's causing it.

 

[Neal]

Your making me feel guilty, but I have nowhere to put them atm, what do you want me to do? use my bathtub?