Price/ Value Of Black Venezuelan Cory's

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Just wondered what the going price overseas for Black Venezuelan Cory's might be? I have finally stumbled across somebody in Australia who has them and is wanting to sell them but has no idea what they should be sold for. I know because of the rarety of them I can expect to pay a lot, but I thought everyone on here might be able to give me some ball park figures.
 
they have some of these in our local LFS at the moment and they are going for £25 a pair (not cheap!)
 
Def not cheap but then I have seen green lasers over here going for as much as $45 each :hyper: :crazy: . Even at $25 each (which I doubt the person will sell them for) I think I could strech my budget to get 5 of them. Heck crystal red shrimp are still demanding big bickies, the cheapest I have seen here for low grade crystal reds is $5 each and all prices imaginable up into the hundreds for the highest grades. At least cory's should be easier to keep alive and breed then the crystals.
 
Hi Baccus,

Before you buy anything, it's a good idea to be sure that it's properly identified. When most people think of "black" corydoras, the fish they have in mind is the C. schultzei, black variation.

10-05 Black pair.jpg

If this is what you are looking for, make sure it's what you're getting. While evidently there are some unusual dark colored C. Venezuelanus that appear once in a while, a C. venezuelanus looks like this:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/_species.php?species_id=716

So, if the C. schultzei is the fish you are looking for, the price in the US can vary greatly. I've seen young fish (1" long or so) go for $10 at auction. Adult fish are higher and proven breeders are higher still. My original batch of five blacks (proven breeders) were purchased on AquaBid for $250 plus $50 air shipping. Looking back on that I must say that they were worth it just for the fun I had with them.
 
Thank you for that Inchworm, :nod: I will ask the seller if he has any pictures of the cory's he has for sale, becuase quite frankly the way so many places/ people misidentify cory's he may have the wrong name as well. Of course the same goes for the fact he could have the right name too. At one time even my favourite pet shop (who are usually pretty spot on with their fish) had two tanks one with a batch of Peppered Cory's and another tank of Corydoras paleatus, and of course they had two seperate prices on them. At least with pictures of the fish he' s selling I should have a good idea of what I am dealing with and how dark coloured they are.
 
Ouch, the seller finally got back to me and is thinking of around $50 each (I think he said he had 5 of them), I am still yet to see a picture of them to make sure they are the ones I want or even to confirm how large he says they are. He doesn't really know anything about them as he only got them in a bulk buy off somebody else :sad: .
 
Ouch, the seller finally got back to me and is thinking of around $50 each (I think he said he had 5 of them), I am still yet to see a picture of them to make sure they are the ones I want or even to confirm how large he says they are. He doesn't really know anything about them as he only got them in a bulk buy off somebody else :sad: .

I know sometimes you guys pay well over the odds for your fish but I think $50 is O.T.T. Here is the link to the place I mentioned. I know its no use for you, but it gives an indication of what they can be sold for. I don't see the shipping being more expensive to bring them to the UK than to Australia, though I suspect your MAF charges to the aquatic consolidators is probably higher.

Kesgrave Tropicals Venezuelan Corydoras
 
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One of the problems people sometimes have with online sales is that they do not read the offering carefully enough. In this case, the fish in the picture is not the fish that is offered for sale at the price shown. It is a mature member of a different species than it is labeled.

The written description states that the fish for sale are 1.5 cm in length. This converts to only 0.59055 inches. They are selling fish that are little more than fry. The price they are asking converts today from 8.49 GBP = 13.1579 USD. This is a pretty expensive little fish.

I know sometimes you guys pay well over the odds for your fish but I think $50 is O.T.T.

Not really. It turned out that the gentleman I was bidding against was in the process of increasing his bid by another $50 for the lot when the auction ended. Lucky for me. :) Now let me explain the difference between the ad you linked to and the auction I won.

The fish you linked to are very small and therefore young. They don't ship as well at that size than they do when they are older. Also, you will have to finish raising them yourself and this will take some time to bring them to maturity. They tend not to spawn at a young age although many corys will.

Now look at this:

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/97834-theyve-spawned/page__hl__spawned

Please keep in mind that this is an old thread and these fish were still being called a variation of C. aeneus. They are now called C. schultzei.

Which fish do you think are the real value now? :unsure:
 
I guess I should have added that not only will the person most likely be wanting $50 each but I would have to drive at least 4 1/2 hrs one way to collect the fish and fuel in Australia (the area of Aust that I am in) your looking at fuel being $1.60/L. Start factoring in those bits and the cory's are getting even more expensive than just the sale cost.
 
One of the problems people sometimes have with online sales is that they do not read the offering carefully enough. In this case, the fish in the picture is not the fish that is offered for sale at the price shown. It is a mature member of a different species than it is labeled.
I read the offering fine thanks. I was fully aware of the size of the fish. However I did assume that the image shown was of the correct species. It is unlike the shop I linked to to get things wrong, and they are perfectly reputable, though being in the states I would not expect you to be aware of the reputation of our stores here.

The written description states that the fish for sale are 1.5 cm in length. This converts to only 0.59055 inches. They are selling fish that are little more than fry. The price they are asking converts today from 8.49 GBP = 13.1579 USD. This is a pretty expensive little fish.
I would disagree that they are little more than fry. Some cory's do not get very large, and it is my understanding that this species is one of them. Some fish are indeed expensive. But I would much rather buy a smaller fish than one that is full size and possibly does not have as long a life. I enjoy watching my fish grow ;)

I know sometimes you guys pay well over the odds for your fish but I think $50 is O.T.T.

Not really. It turned out that the gentleman I was bidding against was in the process of increasing his bid by another $50 for the lot when the auction ended. Lucky for me. :) Now let me explain the difference between the ad you linked to and the auction I won.
My comment about price was aimed at the original poster not you ! And he is paying in Australian dollars, not American ones.

The fish you linked to are very small and therefore young. They don't ship as well at that size than they do when they are older. Also, you will have to finish raising them yourself and this will take some time to bring them to maturity. They tend not to spawn at a young age although many corys will.
Again, this is not relevant, as my comment was directed to the original poster

Now look at this:

http://www.fishforum...ge__hl__spawned

Please keep in mind that this is an old thread and these fish were still being called a variation of C. aeneus. They are now called C. schultzei.

We are not talking about these fish though are we

Which fish do you think are the real value now? :unsure:

Again, you seem to be comparing something different to me. I am perfectly happy that the comparison I have made is appropriate.
 
Hi Baccus,

That is getting a bit steep, I must admit. Since your Australian $ converts to almost the same thing as a USD, I can see that it would be expensive if you figure in the travel costs. IMHO, fish are fun but if they are too expensive, it's sometimes best to look for something else. Believe me, when I look at AquaBid, there are many unusual corys that I have to pass up because of price. Still, over the years I've been quite happy with the ones I did buy.

@mishmash - Don't worry, my comments weren't directed toward you personally.
 
I know I am probably going to have to give up the dream of some black cory's :sad: , its bad enough the going price of yellow cherry shrimp $45 each so another critter that I have to just wish for. It was just that I had never seen black cory's for sale in Australia before. I will be talking to the person again, so who knows I might be able to get them to come down in price.
 

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