Popping The Swim Bladder?

[Davo86]

Ok so at work we had 3 deformed Oscars brought into us, as the owner couldn't take care of them properly, (not sure why they brought them to a LFS but anyway)

with the first one we made the decision that the best thing to do was to euthanise the poor fish, the second one through a course of salts and peas has made a really good recovery and now is living with a severum until it is sold.

The third Oscar did start to get better but now seems to be so bloated with air that its quite obviously bulging, the fish is still very active and doing its best to eat,
my colleague decided that this was the last thing to try before we euthanise him, Any thoughts or alternatives would be great?

 

[shelaghfishface]

please dont do anything untill you have spoken to wilder ,i appreciate its a business but please please please ( ill love you forever if you dont give up on him just yet)
it really p***ses me off the way oscars are treated by some people
shelagh xxx

 

[Davo86]

please dont do anything untill you have spoken to wilder ,i appreciate its a business but please please please ( ill love you forever if you dont give up on him just yet)
it really p***ses me off the way oscars are treated by some people
shelagh xxx

hi shelagh, I too want to give the oscar the best possible chance, and the whole purpose of this post was so that wilder and others could give me the best possible advice.
The poor guy has been floating around uncontrollably for the past 3 weeks now and TBH looking at the state he is currently in it somehow does seem the humane thing to do but if there is another option available like physically popping the bladder then its something i will try.

 

[shelaghfishface]

oh i didnt realise it was this long, wish you all the very best to find a cure for him

 

[Davo86]

bump

 

[WILDER]

You can burp fish but is says in this link it should only be done as a last resort.
Have you tryed epson salt baths.
[URL="http/www.flippersandfins.net/SwimbladderDisease.htm"]http/www.flippersandfins.net/SwimbladderDisease.htm[/URL]

Taken from the link.

One can burp larger fish manually, although this is to be avoided unless the fish is starting to fail. This can be done by applying gentle pressure to the underside of the fish, from just in front of the vent (anus) and sliding a finger forward toward to the mid section of the belly. If successful, one will often hear an audible 'burp'. One should then use a little Stress Coat or NovAqua afterwards because the handling of the fish may damage its' slime coat.

 

[Davo86]

Thanks Wilder, Oscar seems to be on its last legs so will try this tomorrow,
have been feeding with peas and have tried a few epson salt baths but to no avail

 

[nosoup4you]

Wouldn't "burping" a fish only work if it were air in the stomach and not a swim bladder disorder?

 

[WILDER]

Ok.
What do you think caused the swim bladder as there loads of factors.
1. Bad water quality.
2.Poor diet.
3. Deformed swim bladder.
4. Injury in the tank or handling to rough.
5. Bacterial.
6. Parasites.
7. Unstable temp
The only other thing you can do is medicated food, or antiobiotics but need to be used in issolation.

 

[Davo86]

The 3 oscars had a deformity from birth, they have the shape of a blood parrot
there is a video posted on the hybrid forum from when they came into the store.

The stomach now has the appearance similar to that of a rubber balloon?

 

[WILDER]

They might have a deformed swim bladder aswell then.
Were they born with a deformed swim bladder.
There was a video of a vet adding a magnet or something to a fish as that had a deformed swim bladder.

 

[nosoup4you]

Just watched the video down in the hybrid forum. Their previous owner needs smacked. Those fish have obviously been like that for some time. How could you look at a fish like that everyday without realizing that something was wrong?

 

[Davo86]

They might have a deformed swim bladder aswell then.
Were they born with a deformed swim bladder.
There was a video of a vet adding a magnet or something to a fish as that had a deformed swim bladder.

yes the swim bladder looks deformed,

 

[WILDER]

Nothing to be done then I think.
Here amother link about sticking a needle into the swim bladder but I wouldn't do that as you need experience.
<a href="http/www.ehow.com/how_2099626_treat-swim...e-goldfish.html" target="_blank">http/www.ehow.com/how_2099626_treat-swim...e-goldfish.html</a>

Another link.
http/www.####Swim%20Bladder%20Disorder.html

 

[puppyjess123]

POor things thats upsetting. I don't think you can make them better.