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Patience And Budget

yinyangpete

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After being without an aquarium for a couple years, I decided it was time to get a tank up again. I was all excited...my wallet wasn't. Not to be deterred, I started scouring online sale postings for something that fit my budget. I've had a tank of one kind or another (never saltwater) over a few decades so I felt I was up to the task.

After searching ads a couple times a day for weeks, I was starting to wonder if used aquarium products had somehow starting holding their value in the past couple years. I reassured myself that I wasn't being unrealistic in my expectations and pushed forward. And then, last Saturday morning, with half-opened eyes, coffee still brewing, and a headache reminding me that moderation takes on new depths of meaning with every year, I opened the lists and started with the garage sales.

Tucked inside a listing with a washing machine, couch, dishwasher, car on blocks, used motorcycle gear, and nicknacks was this...
aquarium with stand and supplies.
No other details, no price, no contact information, just an address. But the address was 10 minutes away. I put on clothing fit for public appearance, filled the travel mug with coffee, and hit the road.

First, I noticed an old pail of aquarium "supplies" and a tarp with about 10 motorcycle helmets sitting on it. No tank and no stand. I went to the front door and knocked. We had some friendly chitchat about the lovely morning (though I suspect she noticed my deathgrip on the coffee mug and my less than stellar morning breath as I'd skipped brushing my teeth) and I was escorted around to the garage to see the fish tank and the rest of the items for sale. It seems her husband and two sons are, let's politely say, "collectors." She, on the other hand, seemed to be tenuously grasping to the idea that it was nice to get from one end of the garage to the other without falling over something. We stepped around the old fake x-mas tree box filled with a dual chamber HOB, hoods and lights, a heater, and more supplies. Way in the back, sitting on top of two stainless steel table refrigerators (unplugged and also for sale) was an Oceanic 55g with a manufactured cabinet stand laying on it's back on top of the aquarium.

I gulped my coffee, put my eye on everything as closely as possible, and came to the conclusion that I was going to have a fun day. After a bit of delicate negotiation, she went inside to talk with her husband. I suspect their negotiations were less delicate, but she emerged the victor and asked "If I let it go at that price, can you take it with you right now?" I pointed to my truck and bent down to pick up the x-mas tree box of supplies and told her I'd just need help with the tank. We put the tank in the back of the truck and I took a minute to reinspect in the full sunlight. My head was killing me but my wallet smiled.

55g Oceanic, cabinet stand, hoods, lights, HOB, heater, and requisite "supplies" for $60. All those weeks of searching had finally yielded a result.


Here's a pic of the crud coming off the front glass with vinegar and a razor blade.

 
A quick pic of the current placement. I don't know that I have a better place in the house for a green water tank. Alas, that is not my plan....


The stand has some nicks in it. No horrible gouges or scratches. Easily resolved.


Time to drag the hose in the window and see if this is a real deal or if I brought home a terrarium.


The tank holds water. Quick tip, closely examine the brick you use to hold down the hose instead of just grabbing the first one your hand finds. Otherwise, you may soon discover that ants can swim, and a hundred of them are a real PITA to kill one by one. Never again.

Cleaning the filter with a toothbrush and cotton swabs. Notice the old media that was left in the filter to die.


Here's the hoods. They needed quite a bit of cleaning. Most of it wiped right off with the rag and vinegar. The glass is another story. It cleaned up okay, but it's definitely blocking light. Not too worried about it since I'm pretty sure I'll be changing to different lights anyway.



And here it is mostly cleaned up and holding water.


Things yet to come...
Buy a heater--the one that came with it refuses to work.
Drain the tank and get an initial aquascape. Gravel, rocks, driftwood to be sourced from my property.
The back and right side are going to need covered. No decisions yet.
Touch up the cabinet.
Make decisions about hoods and lights.
Replace and/or add filtration. The filter that came with it, considering it is used, is acceptably noisy and seems to be running well. I had a Filstar xp3 on my last tank, though, and I miss it.
FISH and some live plants.
 
 
 
That is one good-looking tank, Pete! You've got a bargain there and I'm looking forward to seeing how it progresses.
BTW you have a great writing style - have you considered becoming an author? lol
 
Agreed, nice tank and I enjoyed the story that came with it!  Looking forward to hearing about your progress with it.
 
What a great deal! Looking forward to more updates.
 
The tank looks wonderful! Glad it held water & was such a good deal.
 
Are you going to do a fish-less cycle? I really enjoyed reading this. Can't wait to see more progress
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Sounds like a excellent buy and tank and stand does indeed look good. Especially for $60!

I look forward to reading more of this as you go along.

You do seem to have a natural storytelling style in your writing, and with these little humourous details makes this an thoroughly enjoyable read.

Oh, and by the way, Welcome to the Forum! :)
 
Indeed, welcome. How long have you been away? Gaps have an annoying tendency to render our wisdom obsolete, but also making you the guru of the real way to do some old school stuff. Looking forward to seeing what you have planned.
 
Hey, everyone. Thanks for checking out my journal.

To answer your questions....

I will be doing a fishless cycle. For me, there's really no point in setting up my tank if I can't find the time to grow some bacteria. But that's just me.

I'm only a couple years from my last tank, DrRob. But I do still remember my very first tank--slate bottom, metal frame, and 10g of wonder.

On to the update....

In the past, I've picked up the cool looking rock here and there for my aquarium, but I've never before set out to collect gravel and driftwood from the backyard. I'm still learning about this approach. As usual, there's a complete continuum of opinions about how to do this properly and whether you should do it at all. I'm approaching it as a learning experience. And, I'm hoping to draw some inspiration along the way. So....

I headed down to the creek the other day to scout for driftwood, rocks, and gravel. I hauled an old saw, a tape measure, some vinegar, buckets and a shovel down to the woodline. I grabbed the tape measure and saw and hiked down to the creek figuring I'd focus on driftwood first.



This creek runs torrentially after a period of heavy rain. Normally, it's just a quiet winding of water. There is a lot of wood that is completely unusable because it is too rotten. I found stuff that was way too big. Or too small. I had a picture in my head that I was trying to follow. Nothing was working. Finally, I found a piece that gave me a flash of a new idea and I headed back up. It was none to soon, I might add, as I was thoroughly over the cankerworms (inchworms) which are hanging and dropping everywhere.



The piece in the back is really cool looking, but way too big. I thought I might take the chainsaw to it and trim it into something usable. As of now, it's laying in a flowerbed. It's just too big. The piece in the front is what gave me the aquascaping idea I'm currently tossing around.

I started emptying the tank when I got back to the house. (One nice thing about having it right next to a window is that you can drain water directly outside. No lugging buckets around for water changes.) While it was draining I grabbed the piece of wood and brushed it somewhat clean. Surprisingly, it was not full of ants. After the tank drained I carried the wood inside and put it in the tank. I made a decision about where to cut it and I was off to the garden hose.

I gave it a good spray with the hose and then put it in the bucket. After soaking it for a short while, I took the brush to it and kept dunking it in the water. The water turned black. I began imagining a tank full of black water and started to wonder if this was going to go horribly wrong. I let it continue to soak anyway. After a few hours, I decided to replace the water.



There are some softer areas on the wood that keep rubbing off with every cleaning. Underneath, the wood is quite hard. It's taking on more and more character with each cleaning. It's exciting to see it take shape, but if I can't get it all down to good, hard wood I won't be using it. I'm also happy to say that the water has stopped immediately turning black.

I've read that some people boil their driftwood to kill bacteria. The pic above is looking down into a 50g bucket. I don't have a pot big enough to boil this piece of wood. Some people have used a bleach solution, but this seems to be generally frowned upon over concerns about leaching chlorine into the aquarium. I haven't made any decisions yet and would welcome thoughts. However, putting it in the oven and baking it--as I've seen suggested--is not an option. Not simply because it's too big, but rather over pesky, nagging concerns about turning my kitchen into a blazing inferno. At the moment, I'm leaning toward a brief soak in a bleach solution and then several clean water soaks.
 
I've already posted a pic of my empty tank, so I won't bother repeating that. Instead, I'll leave you for now with a pic of a turtle I almost stepped on as I was wondering around the creek.



I'll try to update you on my experience with gravel later today.
 
Hi, Pete!  I'd like to offer you yet another compliment on your story-telling skills.  If writing isn't part of your profession I think you should at least do a column in your local paper or something like that. You really have a way with words that puts joy into the day.  Congrats on the sweet score.  I also happened to get lucky recently.  I got a 100L tank(yes, it holds water!) with a stand, cover, filter and lamp.  My only problems are the lamp is the wrong voltage for where I live and the filter needs a new down tube. But here's the part where I one-up you:  price= FREE!!!  I look forward to following your build and also sharing with the community my own journey.  
 
yinyangpete said:
I'm only a couple years from my last tank, DrRob. But I do still remember my very first tank--slate bottom, metal frame, and 10g of wonder.
 
I've only recently got rid of one of those. It was leaking just a bit too much and it lost another panel after a bit of clumsiness.
 
yinyangpete said:
I've read that some people boil their driftwood to kill bacteria. The pic above is looking down into a 50g bucket. I don't have a pot big enough to boil this piece of wood. Some people have used a bleach solution, but this seems to be generally frowned upon over concerns about leaching chlorine into the aquarium. I haven't made any decisions yet and would welcome thoughts.
 
It's not recommended to boil wood as it breaks down the fibres.  Pouring boiling water over it is a better idea.
 
Nice pics!
 
Ok. So about my mud, err gravel.



I clearly underestimated the amount of dirt in a shovel full of rock and sand. If you've done this before, thanks for giving me the chance to explore and meet the world face to face (or face to mud) without laughing at me before I could laugh at myself. If you haven't done this before, well, harumph...I respect the impulse (obviously), but let it go.

I take joy in meditative tasks, but you can find a decade of meditation in trying to rinse a half gallon of creek gravel. It is the ultimate karma yoga. If a yogi asks you to choose between finding a circle with no center or rinsing the dirt from some creek gravel--choose to find a centerless circle. In my opinion it is easier.

Here's a pic of my sophisticated manufactory....



You can see I had an old window screen on top of a bucket...thinking that might "sort" my treasure. Urg.

Chalking it up to best laid plans and what not. Choke.

My uncle had a big container of sand? sitting in the back of his barn. Well, it's more like large sand or small gravel. I don't know. I poured some water over it and ran it through my fingers, and next thing I knew I was carting buckets of the stuff to my truck. No, it was not pre-washed. Yes, my back ached by the time I was done rinsing. I have no certificates of content or compliance.

So, gravel in. I went the route daizeUK mentioned and poured boiling water--one tea kettle at a time--over the wood. Side note...staring...at...a...tea...kettle...and...waiting...for...the...whistle...over...and...over...and...over...and...over...again is infinitely less tasking than trying to rinse creek gravel; b....u....t....i....d....i....g....r....e....s.....s.
 
And, after all, patience is good.

On other fronts, the first background I put on the tank was a total fail. Black paper background. You all know it. I've never used it before, but it came with the "supplies" I bought with the tank so I figured, what the heck, let me see. From the moment I started taping it on a little voice kept saying, NO, stop, don't do this, you'll hate it, are you crazy, etc.

I neglected that little voice.

I'm now trying to figure out how to make myself 6" tall and hang my self upside down from the ceiling to put a new background on the tank.

Ermph...here's now.

 
Shoot, I forgot...
 
Congratulations, FishOut-O-Water, on the great tank find! Now the fun can begin. I bet you can fix the couple problems you mentioned for next to nothing.
 
This is a really interesting thread!! Love the way your write and the tank looks good at the moment. What plants are going in there??
 
Looking good, Pete! I'm looking forward to seeing it progress and love hearing your trials and tribulations along the way!
 

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