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I've had tanks out on a porch, but never out in the actual yard. They did pretty well on the porch, but we didn't have a heater or anything, just a power filter, some minnows and baby sunfish... and lots of rocks.
 
I think it's a great idea! You should go for it. You have a pond for the carp for when they outgrow the tank anyway so I would assume you could still utilize it if the project doesn't go as planned. Sounds like a win-win proposition to me! :cool:
 
I really like this idea, I think instead of having it for tropical fish, why not do it for normal pond fish? that way you wont need a heater or to worry about rainwater poluting it. Also, Fish dont grow to the size of there surroundings. It depends on how much they are fed. Im not sure weither its the same for goldfish, but i know its true for carp.
Good look with this project and please keep us posted on it. We want pictures of how you do it, ect. If you decide to go ahead!!
xx
dawney g
 
I was going to use a submersible heater, to keep the water from freezing in the winter, but it will still be a cold water tank if you see what I mean!!. The carp I have seen are very small, only 2", so they should be ok in there for a while, I know they grow fast, my freind owns a carp lake in France and over the winter feeding them on Barley one fish put on 13 pounds!!. I honestly do have the fishes best interests at heart and if at any point I thought they were unhappy in anyway I would rehome them and cancel the project.

Mark.
 
i would get a glass hood and then plant plants all around it so u cant see the stand or anything.
 
Tetramad said:
I was going to use a submersible heater, to keep the water from freezing in the winter, but it will still be a cold water tank if you see what I mean!!. The carp I have seen are very small, only 2", so they should be ok in there for a while, I know they grow fast, my freind owns a carp lake in France and over the winter feeding them on Barley one fish put on 13 pounds!!. I honestly do have the fishes best interests at heart and if at any point I thought they were unhappy in anyway I would rehome them and cancel the project.

Mark.
Mark, the first concern I thought about would be the heater. I have a bunch of bluegill and bass in a tank inside with no heater. But if you keep them outside, what happens if you have a power outage. Even a 24 hour outage I think could really hurt the fish, and if your pond was frozen over, you'd have no where to put them. I realize this may not happen often, but I'd feel terrible if it happened once and the fish froze to death.
 
You can buy pond heaters to stop them freezing. Just like your standard submergible heater but with a much longer lead. Should be right up your street.

UV should help stop the worst of the algae and you'd have a natural top off system in autumn/spring.

If you are prone to long power cuts then you can hook up a system where a gennie or a battery kicks in once the mains dies. I personally like the idea. Just make sure all the electrics is done with outside rated components.

Also, if you have a filter than runs out above the surface of the tank then the movment of the water falling on to the tank will stop that area freezing (though not much use in a power cut...)

HIH

Andy
 
Personally I would be worried about the stand shrinking and expanding in the varying weather conditions. When it is cold it will shrink and if it becomes icey then you get possible problems. When it warms up again the tank will expand and stretch the seals. This over time will surely lead to leakages or in the worst freezing cases cracks in the tank...

If you however lived in a consistantly warm climate then it should be ok...
but Nottingham is hardly tropical sunshine all year round ;)

Ben
 
Personally I would be worried about the stand shrinking and expanding in the varying weather conditions. When it is cold it will shrink and if it becomes icey then you get possible problems. When it warms up again the tank will expand and stretch the seals. This over time will surely lead to leakages or in the worst freezing cases cracks in the tank..
bunjiweb

If you are prone to long power cuts then you can hook up a system where a gennie or a battery kicks in once the mains dies.
andywg

These should be considered very impotant.

Are you going to be building the tank yourself?
If so, i would be a little careful on your dimensions, the tank seems to be around 90 gallons but it might fall apart due to uneven pressure.
Check with professional tank builders.

In respect to the heater, are you using a canister filter or a wet dry or what?
With the canister and wet dry you can use an in line heater, which attaches to the hose or pipe going into the tank from the filter.
The water is heated before entering the tank.
These are very handy.

The alagae problem can be taken care of if you plant your tank heavely.
Alagae grows from phosphates, which come from fish waste and uneaten food.
Ofcourse there will be some growing, but you can get an alagae eater for that problem.

You might want to wait on purchasing the carp also.
Buy some feeder gold fish to cycle the tank.
After half a year or more, put the goldfish into your pond and then buy the carp.
Carp are known to have sensitive hearts.
The stress of the high amounts of ammonia and nitrites can kill them and that would be like throwing money away.

Be careful without a top water evaporates very very quick, which increases ammonia and nitrite.
Watch out for dragonfly larvae, they are known to eat fish.
Dragonfly's lay their eggs in water and fish don't usually eat them.

Hope this helps
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Too bad you're not close to where I work, I could easily provide you with a HUGE pond to put the carp in once they outgrow the tank. We have a carp feeding lake/pond at Marineland, a lot of families picnic next to it and toss in bread and stuff for them to eat.

I'd say go for it if you have the pond backup, though. But I should warn you.. in the indoor aquarium at work, they have a display that goes underground around the back of the AQ, with a freshwater fish display. All of those tanks are 6 feet MINIMUM in depth, because without that [or so I've been told by the person managing those fish], when it comes winter time they swim as low as they can where the water is warmer. I know you'll be using a heater, to keep the water at a safe temperature, but the thing is, these carp are never outdoors for the winter. They're always inside where the temperature is nice and steady, but they sense the change in the season or barometer pressure or some cool stuff like that, and start to remain lower in the water.

Just passing on some wonderful Marineland knowledge. :)

[Jeebus, every post I make now sounds like a bloody commercial for them :lol: I really don't mean it that way, I'm just learning a LOT working there, and I want to pass on what I learn]
 
I think other than the tank possibly expanding/contracting from the temp changes, it's a definite green light on this project. I think it sounds great! I have an above-ground goldfish pond that I've had for about 5-6 years now, and I'd love to be able to see into the sides of it. I hope you have great luck with it! Be sure to post pix when you get it up and going!
 
Yes, you would have alot more luck if you dig a hole and burry most of the aquarium in the ground. This will provide insulation and stop the tank expanding/contracting so much.

Just be very careful before you decide as you should well know how bad the frosts we get in England are sometimes, theres no point wasting your time on a project only for it to fall apart within a month or 2 due to temp. changes.

Ben
 
Wow!!! seems like everyone is into this idea, thanks for all your comments. I will start looking for a suitable tank asap!!!. I will document this project really well with photos and text and keep you all posted on its progress.

Mark.
 

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