Non-native Koi Placed In City Pond.

[t1tanrush]

One of the ponds I fish at has had someone a few years ago release several very large koi into the pond. Now me being the fisherman that I am would like to keep the natives in tact, and the large koi could be a problem if they breed and start to get out of control.

Any ideas how to catch them so I can remove them? And any way to keep them stable while I look for a new home without me having my own pond?

 

[saltynay]

Your coming across as a koi thief (not meant to offend you but koi are expesnive and precious animals), are you even legally allowed to fish in the pond? As I doubt the council or owner would put koi in, if not for decorative purposes. Write a stern letter to the council or pond owners stating your argument and plight, do not take matters into your own hands. Just because a neighbour has a dog which you feel may get randy with your dog does not give you the right to kidnap it.

 

[t1tanrush]

Your coming across as a koi thief (not meant to offend you but koi are expesnive and precious animals), are you even legally allowed to fish in the pond? As I doubt the council or owner would put koi in, if not for decorative purposes. Write a stern letter to the council or pond owners stating your argument and plight, do not take matters into your own hands. Just because a neighbour has a dog which you feel may get randy with your dog does not give you the right to kidnap it.

You misunderstand. Yes I am a liscenced fisherman. There is no council or owner. It is a state pond, a public pond. My state is very much against any and all non-native species being in the pond. I know for a fact someone released pets based on talking with the locals. By law, I am allowed to remove all of these fish so that is not the problem, and I really do not care what one individual wants to see. If that one person was irresponsible enough to release an invasive species the last thing I am going to do is care if his koi are removed.

 

[keenonfish]

In the UK it is illegal to remove non natives without the land owners permission. I really think you need to talk to someone before you take the initiative!

Nice to see anglers taking responsibility for their environment. I was recently at a protected pond (illegal to fish in but ironically a club pond round the corner) and I was disgusted with all the fishing line and crap left on the bank

 

[t1tanrush]

In the UK it is illegal to remove non natives without the land owners permission. I really think you need to talk to someone before you take the initiative!

Nice to see anglers taking responsibility for their environment. I was recently at a protected pond (illegal to fish in but ironically a club pond round the corner) and I was disgusted with all the fishing line and crap left on the bank

I'm in the US, my laws say it is 100% legal for me to remove and do whatever I want with them, don't really have anyone to talk to. The last thing the city cares about is some koi in a small pond of theirs, when they have so many other problems coming up recently with the economy.. I've given up that route.

 

[saltynay]

I would still right a letter to your local "wildlife and forestry commision" (I think thats the name of the yanks version of the UK DEFRA) before proceeding just in case, better to be covered by a large government supported organisation in case legal proceedings occur then on your own, It may take a while to get but keep pestering them just in case. Koi are best caught with netting on a warm summers evening around dusk prefferably, tinned tuna should bring them to the area quitequickly to be netted. I can see why you may not have the patience for net so any anglers advice for catching carp should work well, as they are essentially selectively bred carp. To transport is difficult I would think a bin lined with bin liners which have been soaked and washed thoroughly with just water filled to 3/4 full would be best for transporting large quantities of fish safely. They then need to be house in a pond atleast 6 feet deep and prefferably 10 foot long 6 foot wide although smaller temporary enclosures can be used. Pretty much any local fish shop will jump on the chance for koi as they sell for big money hence why I was apprehensive to advise you earlier. Good quality show carp sell for $5000+ but if these were released by a local they will still be aroud $40+ a piece which although their is a recession I find very strange for someone to simply chuck away.

Koi aren't particulalrly invasive they act like any other carp there bright colouration actually makes them more vulnerable to predators.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Personally i would catch the koi and rehome them to a local pet shop- i am sure there are probably plenty of pet shops around that would be happy to take in some free koi .

 

[t1tanrush]

I would still right a letter to your local "wildlife and forestry commision" (I think thats the name of the yanks version of the UK DEFRA) before proceeding just in case, better to be covered by a large government supported organisation in case legal proceedings occur then on your own, It may take a while to get but keep pestering them just in case. Koi are best caught with netting on a warm summers evening around dusk prefferably, tinned tuna should bring them to the area quitequickly to be netted. I can see why you may not have the patience for net so any anglers advice for catching carp should work well, as they are essentially selectively bred carp. To transport is difficult I would think a bin lined with bin liners which have been soaked and washed thoroughly with just water filled to 3/4 full would be best for transporting large quantities of fish safely. They then need to be house in a pond atleast 6 feet deep and prefferably 10 foot long 6 foot wide although smaller temporary enclosures can be used. Pretty much any local fish shop will jump on the chance for koi as they sell for big money hence why I was apprehensive to advise you earlier. Good quality show carp sell for $5000+ but if these were released by a local they will still be aroud $40+ a piece which although their is a recession I find very strange for someone to simply chuck away.

I won't give them to a LFS, I'd probably rehome them myself for a fee to pay for the pool I have to get and the net and whatnot, it's amazing how much these fish go for, considering the ones in the pond are larger than any I've seen for sale recently..

 

[saltynay]

Well they are gorgeous fish and the colouration means everything of course

 

[afishdude]

We ask fisherman to kill all non native fish immediately. It is illegal to return them to the waters.


Fish for them the same way you would a carp, basic dough ball or similar type bait.

 

[t1tanrush]

We ask fisherman to kill all non native fish immediately. It is illegal to return them to the waters.


Fish for them the same way you would a carp, basic dough ball or similar type bait.

I watched a lot of youtube videos and I've pretty much figured I might just surface fish it on the basic rod I have, don't think I have the stuff to setup for real carp fishing. I notice these guys get the carp going with some bread then just toss a piece out on a hook and keep catching em, with possible pet-release fish I think this could probably work well, thoughts?