New Setup

[jollysue]

Your pandas look great, Inchy. I have a covey of little panda juvies that survived the move and have transfered to a 20 long with a cloud of galaxy Rasaboras. They will go to market soon though with some bronze and sterbai fry.

A cloud of small neons or harlequins and a tribe of 5 or 6 small cories such as pandas in a planted 10 usg would be a nice tank. I don't know the requirements of kuhlis, but I probably would think twice about keeping kuhlis with pandas. I have queens (dario Botia) and zebras (straita Botia) with pepper Cories. They just do manage with the boisterous loaches. Although you may not see the loaches, they most likely come out foraging when all is quiet. And they can get pushy. I think--but not sure--they are also generally considered a fish that produces extra waste. Dirty fish need more filtration and area. Pandas need good water.

 

[K.D]

A cloud of small neons or harlequins and a tribe of 5 or 6 small cories such as pandas in a planted 10 usg would be a nice tank. I don't know the requirements of kuhlis, but I probably would think twice about keeping kuhlis with pandas. I have queens (dario Botia) and zebras (straita Botia) with pepper Cories. They just do manage with the boisterous loaches. Although you may not see the loaches, they most likely come out foraging when all is quiet. And they can get pushy. I think--but not sure--they are also generally considered a fish that produces extra waste. Dirty fish need more filtration and area. Pandas need good water.

I had 4 Kuhli loaches in the Community tank. It's a Fluval UNO Deep 800, that's where all the Corydoras are now and every now and again, all four of them would come out and the Pandas and Sterbai would swim with them. The only bad thing I've noticed about Kuhli's is that they nibble at leafs of plants. I'm actually just thinking about getting some Corydoras, Kuhlis and 2 Pakistan Loaches. There's so much fish out there that I like but are extremely rare out here. I've got Harlequins and Cardinal Tetras in the community tank and I find them to be the most boring and unattractive fish I've seen. The Harlequins, as they get older just stay in one place at the top of the tank and Cardinals and Neons get scared at any outside movement and they hide. I want fish that are going to be swimming around, playing with another and don't hide if I come to watch for a bit.

 

[K.D]

Have a happy birthday, Kyle!

Thank you so much, it's seems that people have forgotten it's my birthday lol. But I don't mind, I'm enjoying it on my own, I am having a party tomorrow though.

 

[K.D]

Okay, I've been doing some thinking and I might go with 10 Panda Corydoras and 2 Dwarf Gourami.

 

[Inchworm]

I think you'll find that's a few fish too many, Kyle. The C. pandas will do fine in a species tank, but the gouramis won't work with them. Pandas are touchy about water and tankmates, but love to be by themselves.

 

[jollysue]

Sorry if I'm late, Happy Birthday!

I love my loaches and Cories too. I agree the Tetras and Rasas are boring. I even was thinking that they were show items, eye candy if you will, and not like pets like Corys or a nice Betta.

 

[K.D]

Okay, I'm confused. I've got people telling me to mix them and people telling me not to mix them.

 

[ICEEGRL]

If you can find a medium it can work. If the top temp for one is in the low range for the other you can pick a temp that is in range for both. They just won't be as happy being at the very top or bottom of their preferred range. It can be done though.
The ones that say don't are the ones that don't really like to see "acceptable" ranges, but prefer to see what is really "best" for each fish.
With such a small tank it is much harder to get any variety or activity going. It just isn't enough room. There are options though.
Have you thought of maybe small platys or a few male guppys or female bettas? There are lots of options. You just have to figure out what you like and then from the ones you like best pick some that have similar needs.
There is a sticky thread some where on here with a list of suitable fish for a 10 gallon tank. You need to read it. It gives several suggestions of what could work. I don't remember where I saw it though. I will see if I can find it again.

Sorry I missed your birthday. You are just a year younger than my son, and your birthday is the same as my brother.
Happy belated Birthday.

 

[ICEEGRL]

http/www.fishforums.net/content/New-to-t...or-A-10-Gallon/

I hope this link works. If not... it was in the ones at the top of the new to the hobby section.
All of the sections have stickys at the top before the actual topics. Some of them are very helpful. I try to go to all the different sections and read them. Some times you find the info you are hunting in a section you didn't expect to find it in so it is good to check them all out.
I hope this helps a little.

 

[jollysue]

Some excellent 10 usg set ups: a shellie Tang tank, a Betta sorority tank, a species only Cory breeding tank.

Mix which fish?

Ian Fuller, the premier Cory expert, some believe, told me that Cories were in danger with Loaches, because as the loaches mature and get to breeding age they get more aggressive over food, etc and the Corys can be hurt in the mix. Right after he said that I lost two young peppers in the community tank with Botia that have reached breeding age. So I am watching. I do see the queens being pushy sometimes at feeding time. A hard hit by a queen nose to the belly of a young Cory could surely cause it trouble.

I never discount warnings from experienced hobbyists any more. They have been proven right too often to my sorrow. At the same time I still try things.

 

[Inchworm]

Okay, I'm confused. I've got people telling me to mix them and people telling me not to mix them.

Hi K.D.

Getting back to your topic, let me explain why I said it would probably be best to keep C. pandas by themselves. Several years ago, when I first started with them, I had only kept a few other species of corys. These were the basic lfs offerings of C. aeneus bronze and albino, C. metae (bandits) and probably C. trilineatus (probably sold as C. julli). When I first saw them I was just tickled. They were so cute and I thought of them as having a sophisticated appearance and manner compared to the others I had.

I put them in my community tank and they died. I tried them in a 10 gallon tank with other corys and a 20 gallon long with other fish. It didn't work out and I always lost some or all of them. At this time I didn't know much specific information about corys and hadn't yet found the online resources. It was pretty much a matter of trial and error.

Finally, I bought a 10 gallon and put them in it by themselves. Well, to my great surprise, they lived and started spawning. It seemed to me that they were happy to be by themselves, without even the stress of being in a tank with larger corys. These days I have them in a 20 gallon tank and a 30 gallon tank, still without other species except for an occasional fry that has no where else to go. They did do well with little dwarf corys however. At least, this has been my own experience.

Your tank is small Kyle, and gouramis can be active at times. I think it would be too stressful for the little pandas.

 

[K.D]

I'm not fussed on the Gourami not being in the tank. It would be nice to have just Pandas in the tank. But what is the most I can put in there without them getting stressed? I'm sorry about the small tank, my parents won't allow me bigger.

 

[K.D]

This is an idea I've had so far. The link that ICEEGRL gave states that there should be a minimum of ten small fish in a ten gallon tank. On that link there's a species of Gourami on there that I use to want when I was new to the hobby. I'm thinking about getting 2 female Sparkling Gourami and 8 Corydoras Pygmeaus. Is this a wise decision or not? I would keep the temperature on 26°C so both species are pleased.

 

[K.D]

Will someone tell me if that is a good idea or not. I'm not ignoring your suggestions, I'm just thinking about possibilities.

 

[K.D]

Hey people, I'm back after that very long break. I cleaned out the whole tank the other day and put sand in. I've now got 3 C. Sterbai and 4 C. Caudimaculatus and 1 red Betta. I'm thinking about taking the 3 C. Sterbai back to the large tank because they're too big for my tank. The male betta is only small yet but he's beautiful. Here's a pic I took of him this morning