New Set Up For 10 Gl Tank

[gouramigrl]

i need some ideas with what i can do for the ten gallon tank. because we are goin to be given away the rest of the guppies we have and i wanted to do something completely different with the then gallon tank. what would be some good ideas of some fish that i could put in there?

some of the fish that i was wanting to put in there are
1 male betta
3 female bettas
1 loauch
and that is where i draw i blank.i want to put in at least 3 other kinds of tropical community fish in the tank.but i dont want to put any fish that is a live bear.

and the gourami that we currently have is going to be moved into the ten gallon tank because i know i wouldnt be able to put him in the same tank as the male betta.

so any ideas would be great.

 

[Forestpisces]

Never mix male and female bettas unless breeding, they will kill each other.

You could try a speciese of tetra or rasboras or male endlers.

Loaches in a 10 gal your pretty limited you could have:

Kuhli loaches: I have them and they are brilliant, need groups of 4+ but you need sand

Corydoras Catfish: a group of 4-5 make sure the type you want doesnt exceed 2 inches (few get over 3 but in a 10gal i'd say 2inches would be your limit)

I will help you all i can

 

[gouramigrl]

Never mix male and female bettas unless breeding, they will kill each other.

You could try a speciese of tetra or rasboras or male endlers.

Loaches in a 10 gal your pretty limited you could have:

Kuhli loaches: I have them and they are brilliant, need groups of 4+ but you need sand

Corydoras Catfish: a group of 4-5 make sure the type you want doesnt exceed 2 inches (few get over 3 but in a 10gal i'd say 2inches would be your limit)

I will help you all i can

ive already a loauch in my tank once before and he did fine.
with the bettas i was planning on breeding them eventually. i was thinking about doing a different kind of cory cat because ive had juli and ablino
but the juli's all died and the oldest albino i had in there recently passed away.

i was thinkin of puttin more ghost cats in the tank but im not to sure because
i want something different in there.

 

[Forestpisces]

Still don't keep them together permanently, If you are going to breed then i would suggest ALOT of research and not breeding pet store bettas as they are hard to get rid of because they are extreamly common, also bear in mind you will need to seperately house anything from 10-50 male bettas.

What loach did you previousely have?

What is your current stocking?

 

[gouramigrl]

Still don't keep them together permanently, If you are going to breed then i would suggest ALOT of research and not breeding pet store bettas as they are hard to get rid of because they are extreamly common, also bear in mind you will need to seperately house anything from 10-50 male bettas.

What loach did you previousely have?

What is your current stocking?

yea i will have to look into all of that. i talked to my boyfriends friend about what kind of other fish
i could have in the tank and he said i could use angel fish but im not to sure about that because
i know how tall and wide they can get.so would those be a good choice or no? ive been doing my
research about those as well.

my previous loach that i had was a golden dojo loach.

the current stockin in the tank is
2 ghost cat fish,1 albino cory cat
2 female guppies (one currently in a breeder box because she was giving birth to fry)
1 opaline gourami

in the 2 gallon fish tank there are 7 males.

 

[Forestpisces]

Angels are a deffinate no go i'm afraid they need tanks 18inches tall and can grow to the size of dinner plates.

In a 10g id say you should increase the cory's to at leat 4 as they are a shoaling fish

and i'd say your pretty much stocked, also 2 gallons is not large enogh for guppys as they are very active and need swim room.


Not familiar with ghost catfish how big do they get?

 

[gouramigrl]

Angels are a deffinate no go i'm afraid they need tanks 18inches tall and can grow to the size of dinner plates.

In a 10g id say you should increase the cory's to at leat 4 as they are a shoaling fish

and i'd say your pretty much stocked, also 2 gallons is not large enogh for guppys as they are very active and need swim room.


Not familiar with ghost catfish how big do they get?

yea i was reading that they did need to have at least for two a 29 gallon tank and for a group of them i would need at least a 55 gallon tank for them.
yea i know they are shoaling fish i was considering getting a few more of the cory cats but im not to sure on that. im also getting rid of alot of the fish in there.
i know that the two gallon tank isnt large enough for the male guppies but im also going to be givin them away to the local fish store.they already said that i could
give them to them as store credit.so thats what i have decided to do with all the guppies that i currently have in the tanks.

as for the ghost catfish they are at their max size of of 3 inches.they are pretty hard to take care of.ill post a link on here so you can read more into
them.they really are neat fish to have in your tank.they dont really bother any of their tank mates. but here is the link with some more information on the
ghost cats


http/www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_Kryptopterus_minor.php

 

[CKutz]

gouramigrl, your 2 gal tank is practically useless for fish. 1 betta might be ok in it, but it's pushing the minimum.

something you should consider is that many creatures can survive in an environment not suited to them. but they can't thrive in it. for example, you could survive in your bathroom for your whole life, provided food..but what kind of a life would that be. that's the type of thinking that goes into the size of tank a fish should have.

in the link you posted, it says glass catfish need 100L tanks. that's about 25 gallons. also they should be in groups. yours might be alive and seem fine, but they will probably live shortened lives. also when you give a fish a tank that is really big enough for it, you'd be amazed how much different they act and how much more enjoyable they are to keep.

tell us what fish you will have once you are done giving them back to the store.
you should definitely consider getting a 20 gallon tank instead of your 10. it gives you many more options for fish you can get.

also its very likely that those other cory's you had died because of the tank being overstocked and not cycled at the time.
how long has the tank been running now?

 

[gouramigrl]

gouramigrl, your 2 gal tank is practically useless for fish. 1 betta might be ok in it, but it's pushing the minimum.

something you should consider is that many creatures can survive in an environment not suited to them. but they can't thrive in it. for example, you could survive in your bathroom for your whole life, provided food..but what kind of a life would that be. that's the type of thinking that goes into the size of tank a fish should have.

in the link you posted, it says glass catfish need 100L tanks. that's about 25 gallons. also they should be in groups. yours might be alive and seem fine, but they will probably live shortened lives. also when you give a fish a tank that is really big enough for it, you'd be amazed how much different they act and how much more enjoyable they are to keep.

tell us what fish you will have once you are done giving them back to the store.
you should definitely consider getting a 20 gallon tank instead of your 10. it gives you many more options for fish you can get.

also its very likely that those other cory's you had died because of the tank being overstocked and not cycled at the time.
how long has the tank been running now?

My 2 gallon tank surves its purpose its for keeping the males away from my females, ive been breading guppies in this tank for about 1 year now and i do realize my 2 gallon tank is overstocked but it was not over stocked 1 month ago when all my guppies were fry! so thats why im getting all my guppies a new home in someone elses fish tank.

as for my glass catfish they thrive best in a single species tank but if you go with everything you read you might as well get a whole apartment full of 20 different aquariums. they are best in groups and i havent ever had them solo and they are an interesting fish to study if you feel you would like to keep some then i suggest you get 3 or 4 and place them in your tropical community they do not need anything other then a few plants they are peaceful and hunt for there food. they have been in my tank since it started.

as for you commenting on my cory cats dying because of my tank not being cycled. your way off track. i cycled my tank with a betta and a couple of guppies before adding any cory cats and if my tank was not cycled my glass cats woulda been the first thing to go due to there really sensitive immune system. i purches my glass cats to go with my betta and guppie's and then purches a couple of albino cory cats for a clean up crew. and had that tank running for a full 6 months before i messed with any of the fish inside other then regular maintence.

i then sold my guppies and started breeding my own. and purchased a golden dojo loach/weather loach and he lived full grown in my 10 gallon tank with my 2 glass catfish and my betta for another 3 months. and then i let my boyfriend put him in his cichlid tank and he ended up getting very beaten up and eventually died. which gave me the option of getting other fish. i sold my betta and purchased a gourami. and a few julli cory's and the julli's did not live very long about 1 month i think it was just a bad batch.


tank from cycling point until present day has been running for a little over a year!


sorry for being defensive in this reply but i felt attacked as to you making me out to be a dumb a$$

 

[gouramigrl]

gouramigrl, your 2 gal tank is practically useless for fish. 1 betta might be ok in it, but it's pushing the minimum.

something you should consider is that many creatures can survive in an environment not suited to them. but they can't thrive in it. for example, you could survive in your bathroom for your whole life, provided food..but what kind of a life would that be. that's the type of thinking that goes into the size of tank a fish should have.

in the link you posted, it says glass catfish need 100L tanks. that's about 25 gallons. also they should be in groups. yours might be alive and seem fine, but they will probably live shortened lives. also when you give a fish a tank that is really big enough for it, you'd be amazed how much different they act and how much more enjoyable they are to keep.

tell us what fish you will have once you are done giving them back to the store.
you should definitely consider getting a 20 gallon tank instead of your 10. it gives you many more options for fish you can get.

also its very likely that those other cory's you had died because of the tank being overstocked and not cycled at the time.
how long has the tank been running now?

My 2 gallon tank surves its purpose its for keeping the males away from my females, ive been breading guppies in this tank for about 1 year now and i do realize my 2 gallon tank is overstocked but it was not over stocked 1 month ago when all my guppies were fry! so thats why im getting all my guppies a new home in someone elses fish tank.

as for my glass catfish they thrive best in a single species tank but if you go with everything you read you might as well get a whole apartment full of 20 different aquariums. they are best in groups and i havent ever had them solo and they are an interesting fish to study if you feel you would like to keep some then i suggest you get 3 or 4 and place them in your tropical community they do not need anything other then a few plants they are peaceful and hunt for there food. they have been in my tank since it started.

as for you commenting on my cory cats dying because of my tank not being cycled. your way off track. i cycled my tank with a betta and a couple of guppies before adding any cory cats and if my tank was not cycled my glass cats woulda been the first thing to go due to there really sensitive immune system. i purches my glass cats to go with my betta and guppie's and then purches a couple of albino cory cats for a clean up crew. and had that tank running for a full 6 months before i messed with any of the fish inside other then regular maintence.

i then sold my guppies and started breeding my own. and purchased a golden dojo loach/weather loach and he lived full grown in my 10 gallon tank with my 2 glass catfish and my betta for another 3 months. and then i let my boyfriend put him in his cichlid tank and he ended up getting very beaten up and eventually died. which gave me the option of getting other fish. i sold my betta and purchased a gourami. and a few julli cory's and the julli's did not live very long about 1 month i think it was just a bad batch.


tank from cycling point until present day has been running for a little over a year!


sorry for being defensive in this reply but i felt attacked as to you making me out to be a dumb a$$

the fish that will be remaining after everything is said and done will be the ghost catfish and the gourami. those are the only fish that ill be keeping after i get rid of the guppies and the fry and the albino cory cat and all the male guppies. and ill either be given them to the lfs or people that would like to have very nice looking,and healthy fish in their tanks.

 

[Sean W.]

i have a 10 gallon tank and i have

1 gold gourami
1 cory catfish
1 pleco
1 zebra loach
1 yoyo loach
1 kuhli loach
1 hill stream loach

they all live happily together

as far as kuhli loaches needing sand, idk where that comes from, ihave gravel and ive had my kuhli loach longer than any other fish in my tank
also, as you can see above, fish do fine by them selves in a tank.. they dont need multiples of the same species for them to be happy...


thats just my 2 cents from my own experiences

 

[mwood2]

Sean, while they may seem happy they will not grow to there full potential or act as they would in a group. Loach show there best behaviousin groups of 5+ and when kept alone puts stress on them. Same goes for Cory. Gold Gourami grow far to large for a 10 gallon as well. They are recommended for a 30 gallon and will out grow such a tank. The Pleco MAY be fine depending on what type. The only kind that could thrive in a 10 gallon would be BN Pleco.

 

[Tory]

my glass catfish was one of the first fish I bought when I took up fish keeping aages ago - I bought him on his own, and ever since he has thrived. If you look on the comments to that link, there are several comments to the same effect - I do plan on getting more when my new tank has finished its set up and cycle, but as I say, he has been a happy little chappy from day one!!

 

[mwood2]

Indeed fish can be kept in small tanks and look happy but I have seen issues in the long run. I have a Molly that has been through a fishless cycle, kept in a 5 gallon and move dcountless time and still seems to be doing fine but over time she has had many issues to fish and has become aggressive, even to her fry (which I still have 3 with her). In my personal opinions you want to give fish the proper attention to there needs then your wants.

 

[Forestpisces]

I have to agree with mwood2 do not overstock your tank, especially if it's the only tank you have, it's not fair on the fish and they WILL die wether today or in a few years due to the small tank.

Kuhli loaches need sand or rounded gravel due to them constantly sifting through the stuff for food they have skin instead of scales and sharp gravel will easily harm them and eventually wear away their barbels leaving the unable to eat and face infection or starvation.


Sean.W your tank is severely overstocked and some of those fish grom rather large, they will certainly die in a tank that size.

We are not having a go, we are trying to help you, PLEASE don't just ignore what we are saying because "everything seems fine" it won't be.