Lange
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say i put 5+ neons in a 10 gallon tank would they school and are they easy to breed and also what would be some good tankmates for them
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neons don't school very well. and breeding them will be very difficult. water conditions have o be just right. as for tankmates, pretty much anything will do, gouramis, livebeares, catfish, etc. if you plan to breed them though, don't get any other fish
I have 5 neons in a 10g and 2 blue rams. The problem with the rams is that even thought they're peaceful cichlids, you will do much better with a male and a female and they can be hard to find as a mixed pair.
2 other options:
5 neons
3 cory cats
5 neons
3 oto cats
My neons don't really "school", but they do shoal nicely. If one swims off by itself, the other 4 will go over to it and then all 5 will swim away together. The funny thing though is that they sleep apart. I peeked in on them very early this morning and they were spread all over the tank!
2 other options:
5 neons
3 cory cats
5 neons
3 oto cats
My neons don't really "school", but they do shoal nicely. If one swims off by itself, the other 4 will go over to it and then all 5 will swim away together. The funny thing though is that they sleep apart. I peeked in on them very early this morning and they were spread all over the tank!
if you want to breed the neons, keep them by themselves, if you don't want to breed them, try put 3 cory's in there 
Lange
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so they are diffucult to breed are their any other schooling fish that are realtively easy to breed i have a spare 10 gallon and want to try my hand at breeding something except guppies and mollies
>>> neons in a 10 gallon tank ... and are they easy to breed
Breeding egglayers is not like breeding livebearers. In this thread I described breeding Tiger Barbs. In fact, the method for many barbs, rasboras, tetras etc., is the same. The difference is in the water chemistry, and the feeding.
Keeping the sexes apart during conditioning, another tank for the actual breeding, the conditoning itself and the procedure remain the same.
Neons will breed if you follow that plan. The problem is the water chemistry. To breed successfully, Neons require blackwater river conditions, very clean, salt free, very low nitrate, zero Ammonia/Nitrite, very low pH with almost no hardness. This kind of water is very unstable, and can swing wildly in pH over very short periods, you need a lot of it to try to maintain an equilibrium, so although the fish are small, unless you are very good at chemistry and testing the whole time, or have a lot of money for gadgets, you need quite large tanks.
>>> would they school
Schooling is rarely seen in small tanks, it is a defensive strategy suited to large areas of open water. Doesn't happen in small tanks much.
5 Neons in a 10 is already getting crowded, a few Corys is an idea, but go for the smaller species. Even that will be marginally overstocked.
>>> are their any other schooling fish that are realtively easy to breed
If you put 6 Zebras in the spare 10, leave them in there for a few weeks, then take them out and put them somewhere else, you'll often see fry appear after a few days. Once settled in, as long as conditions are okay, and they are pretty tolerant, they will start to scatter eggs in the run of the days. They eat them though. By removing the fish, you give the eggs that they missed a chance to hatch. Lots of bushy plants and a very course substrate give the eggs hiding places. Problem is, if you only have one spare tank, where do you put them? You can't put them in with the Neons.
Breeding egglayers is not like breeding livebearers. In this thread I described breeding Tiger Barbs. In fact, the method for many barbs, rasboras, tetras etc., is the same. The difference is in the water chemistry, and the feeding.
Keeping the sexes apart during conditioning, another tank for the actual breeding, the conditoning itself and the procedure remain the same.
Neons will breed if you follow that plan. The problem is the water chemistry. To breed successfully, Neons require blackwater river conditions, very clean, salt free, very low nitrate, zero Ammonia/Nitrite, very low pH with almost no hardness. This kind of water is very unstable, and can swing wildly in pH over very short periods, you need a lot of it to try to maintain an equilibrium, so although the fish are small, unless you are very good at chemistry and testing the whole time, or have a lot of money for gadgets, you need quite large tanks.
>>> would they school
Schooling is rarely seen in small tanks, it is a defensive strategy suited to large areas of open water. Doesn't happen in small tanks much.
5 Neons in a 10 is already getting crowded, a few Corys is an idea, but go for the smaller species. Even that will be marginally overstocked.
>>> are their any other schooling fish that are realtively easy to breed
If you put 6 Zebras in the spare 10, leave them in there for a few weeks, then take them out and put them somewhere else, you'll often see fry appear after a few days. Once settled in, as long as conditions are okay, and they are pretty tolerant, they will start to scatter eggs in the run of the days. They eat them though. By removing the fish, you give the eggs that they missed a chance to hatch. Lots of bushy plants and a very course substrate give the eggs hiding places. Problem is, if you only have one spare tank, where do you put them? You can't put them in with the Neons.
Lange
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wow how do u know so much thx for the help the zebra sounds easy but i have one last question once i have the zebra fry or any fry how do i take care of the fry 
and if i did livebeaers do they eat thier young becauz spare tanks are really hard to come by in my house 
and if i did livebeaers do they eat thier young becauz spare tanks are really hard to come by in my house
>>> how do u
I have been keeping and breeding fish for more then 40 years! Still learning though.
>>> eat thier young
Almost all fish that can fit another fish comfortably in their mouth will do so. The majority of Cyprinids and Characins, (and live bearers), will look upon their own young in exactly that way, a snack. Some groups of fish, Cichlids spring to mind, that is not usually the case.
Zebra eggs hatch in about a day, (temperature dependent), and free swimming when the egg sack has been absorbed after less then a week, again, watch them, it depends. They are pretty robust and although a liquid fry feed for a few days will increase the yield, most will take new hatched brine shrimp or finely powdered dry food. A well matured sponge filter is useful in fry tanks, not only does it help with the water quality, it's surface becomes coated with and other small stuff that the fry can eat.
Livebearer fry are much larger then most egg layers fry, and will eat crushed flake food from the outset.
Keep your tanks clean, fry are more sensitive to pollution then their parent.
I have been keeping and breeding fish for more then 40 years! Still learning though.
>>> eat thier young
Almost all fish that can fit another fish comfortably in their mouth will do so. The majority of Cyprinids and Characins, (and live bearers), will look upon their own young in exactly that way, a snack. Some groups of fish, Cichlids spring to mind, that is not usually the case.
Zebra eggs hatch in about a day, (temperature dependent), and free swimming when the egg sack has been absorbed after less then a week, again, watch them, it depends. They are pretty robust and although a liquid fry feed for a few days will increase the yield, most will take new hatched brine shrimp or finely powdered dry food. A well matured sponge filter is useful in fry tanks, not only does it help with the water quality, it's surface becomes coated with and other small stuff that the fry can eat.
Livebearer fry are much larger then most egg layers fry, and will eat crushed flake food from the outset.
Keep your tanks clean, fry are more sensitive to pollution then their parent.
Lange
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thx man i think ill head to the fish store tomarrow agian thx for ur help 
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