Need Some Help

[DiscusKeeper403]

Hi,

Well as some of you may know thursday night my angels spawned (or atleast my female) Since then my no agression tank has become a war zone. My angels (especially the male) are going insaine chasing eachother around the tank. The female really attacked the male when he ate her eggs so i'm not sure what I should do. They ram eachother pretty hard and even though they come out of there fights with no marks it's still scaring me because they've never done this. I bought a breeding net and tank divider yesterday, I set up the tank divider but it didn't fit great so the angels escaped back into the same divided side in the morning. I took out the divider and got the breeding net in there, because I saw them squabble agian. Right know I have the female in there as shes the one being picked on. What should I do? It's like she made the male go insaine because she attacked him for the first time that night. They have shown no sign of slowing down. Anything anyone could recommend for the agression?

Thanks so much!

Connor

 

[Gatorbait]

You could let them work it out on their own, and they will eventually but how badly will one get hurt in the process?

or seperate them. It really is as easy as that.

This is basic cichlid breeding behaviour, in all honesty.

What size tank is it?

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

It's a 23-24g high. I mean are you sure there okay? It's been 3 days with no slowing down.

 

[Gatorbait]

no, I can't guarantee you that they will be ok. I can only generalize based upon past experiences both learned first hand and read from others. I'm sorry I can't give you more than that.

In general, this is exactly what happens when they breed and in the end they are both fine.

The male probably wants to breed right away and if the female doesn't, then he will attack her to get her to or get her "out of his territory" so other females will swim by and breed. The problem is, the female has nowhere else to go to leave his territory.

If you think it is getting out of hand, what I would do is seperate the female and fry and let her get her strength back and after a week and a half or so reintroduce her.

 

[BigIan]

Have you removed the eggs??
remove the eggs and they should all calm down in a day or so

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

No no, you guys aren't following me. The male didn't want to breed but the female laid eggs and the male ate them all. There all gone but they are still being agressive so I already have them speperated (one in a breeding net) I am expanding to a 50-55g by the end of the month, but till' then i'm not sure what to do.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Anyone else?

 

[Tolak]

Make the divider fit, get creative

Pull out the aggressive fish, put it in a bucket with an air stone. Rearrange the tank, using some decorations as a divider. Once the fish in the tank settle in add the aggressive fish.

Get another tank to house the aggreesive fish for a little time out. Let it get territories set in the new tank, then introduce it to the original tank.

If the one in the breeding net is still in the tank with the aggressive fish it won't offer much protection. It will get rammed just the same, and have no place to escape to. Some ramming, nipping, and ripped fins are to be expected with an aggressive pair. Unless you actually saw a male breeding tube on the aggressive fish along with attempts at fertilization you can't assume it's a male, it could just as well be an aggressive female.

Aggression is something that happens with cichlids, you always need to have a backup plan. A functional divider is needed, unless you have a spare tank or two. If you always assume extreme aggression with cichlids you will be prepared. Angels have been known to kill their mate, this is something you need to be ready to deal with. It isn't just angels, it's most any cichlid. Temperment is one of the most overlooked things when breeding angels, if the pair doesn't get along reasonably well they shouldn't be bred as far as I'm concerned.