My Red Belly Piranhas 7-8"

[AmtotheBurr]

Just get it heavily planted and see how they do. They probably dont like being do exposed

 

[CthulhuReborn]

Just get it heavily planted and see how they do. They probably dont like being do exposed

ok thanks and btw I would never add another RBP with them unless they are moved to a 90+ gallon and should I use fake plants or try real? I only have gravel tho

 

[RobRocksFishTank]

 

If you did that much research, you were looking in the wrong places and got some very bad information. Have a look at their natural environment and tell us if what you have even remotely resembles it. Then think about how big these guys can get, 12 inches. That's 3 feet of fish in a 4 foot tank. Sorry, a 55 is not even adequate for just one. It would barely be able to turn around.

what website have you been looking at lol most websites say 10-13 inches ️️max size minimum tank size for 3 50 gallons lol
 

 
Stop LOL at me, it's rude!
 
That information is wrong, period. A dog will live if left chained up all day. It doesn't mean it is an appropriate environment, right?
 
Do you want your fish to just live being stressed out all day every day or do you want them to be comfortable and thrive?
 
If you just want them to live for now then keep them in that tank. They will never attain their full size or colors. IMHO, keeping them in that tank is cruel.

 

[CthulhuReborn]

If you did that much research, you were looking in the wrong places and got some very bad information. Have a look at their natural environment and tell us if what you have even remotely resembles it. Then think about how big these guys can get, 12 inches. That's 3 feet of fish in a 4 foot tank. Sorry, a 55 is not even adequate for just one. It would barely be able to turn around.

what website have you been looking at lol most websites say 10-13 inches ️️max size minimum tank size for 3 50 gallons lol

 
Stop LOL at me, it's rude!
 
That information is wrong, period. A dog will live if left chained up all day. It doesn't mean it is an appropriate environment, right?
 
Do you want your fish to just live being stressed out all day every day or do you want them to be comfortable and thrive?
 
If you just want them to live for now then keep them in that tank. They will never attain their full size or colors. IMHO, keeping them in that tank is cruel. lol I'll lol at you if I want. And dude PLZ look more into these fish befor you try and tell me the tank is to small etc @amtotheburr knows how to keep them because she has read about the same info I have. And yes the tank is5 gallons to small oh no and I didn't post this for you to critise me about my fish. I asked what I should add to the tank fore hem to not be stressed and your the one going on and on about tank to small blah blah blah LMAO if you want to be helpful don't mention the tank mention what I should add like plants etc

 

[Bubbelzzz]

To start, guys, stay nice to eachother
 
The size of the tank is something we would never agree upon. Indeed, there are a lot of people that keep piranha's in similar, in my opinion small tanks. But as I said, I still think it's too small. If you compare it with for example neon tetra's, of which I would only keep them in tanks of minimal 90cm. Then, yes, RBP of 20 cm are waaaaay to large for a tank that has 30 cm more in length.
 
 

Just get it heavily planted and see how they do. They probably dont like being do exposed

I do agree with this. However, as I mentioned before, I would also recommend to dim the light. Maybe adding some floating plants like Pistia stratiotes is a good idea. They create, shady areas and the roots can be used as cover.
 
Personally, I would always use live plants. But it's a matter of what you like best. Live plant's should be able to do well on gravel.

 

[CthulhuReborn]

The size of the tank is something we would never agree upon. Indeed, there are a lot of people that keep piranha's in similar, in my opinion small tanks. But as I said, I still think it's too small. If you compare it with for example neon tetra's, of which I would only keep them in tanks of minimal 90cm. Then, yes, RBP of 20 cm are waaaaay to large for a tank that has 30 cm more in length.
 
 

Just get it heavily planted and see how they do. They probably dont like being do exposed

I do agree with this. However, as I mentioned before, I would also recommend to dim the light. Maybe adding some floating plants like Pistia stratiotes is a good idea. They create, shady areas and the roots can be used as cover.
 
Personally, I would always use live plants. But it's a matter of what you like best. Live plant's should be able to do well on gravel.

well it's your opinion about my tank size but I prefer live plants and i turned the light on for th video I don't use it most of the time and how should I care for the plants like what do they need to survive in their tank? I might buy a few live plants and if they live and do well in the tank then buy more

 

[Bubbelzzz]

I guess, the plants that have a lot of roots will do best, For example: Echinodorus species. They shouldn't be very hard to keep alive as well. However, I think you should add some more substrate. Otherwise the roots can't grow properly which will not only affect the plants, but your fish might pull them out of the substrate.

 

[RobRocksFishTank]

If you had done your research properly, you would know that they need a place to hide and an open area for swimming.
 
How do you think you are going to do that in your tank?
 
They also prefer to be in larger numbers. Did you see that anywhere in your research?
 
Good luck with live plants. They are just going to tear them to shreds every time one of those hated people get near them.
 
Look I did not blame you. There is no need to insult me. It's the misinformation out there that is the problem. Yeah, they will live like that but, they will not thrive.

 

[CthulhuReborn]

Ok how much more gravel? Thanks for helping and are those plants hard to find? And also in my other tank i was going to be unable to buy a bigger tank for my silver dollars and rts so I was going to return them today but I noticed the silver have îck :O wonder what category should I make a new post and can you help me quick with that the rts shows no sign but the silvers do

 

[RobRocksFishTank]

BTW, I knew more about these fish than you do now, way before you were born.

 

[CthulhuReborn]

If you had done your research properly, you would know that they need a place to hide and an open area for swimming.
 
How do you think you are going to do that in your tank?
 
They also prefer to be in larger numbers. Did you see that anywhere in your research?
 
Good luck with live plants. They are just going to tear them to shreds every time one of those hated people get near them.
 
Look I did not blame you. There is no need to insult me. It's the misinformation out there that is the problem. Yeah, they will live like that but, they will not thrive.

ok but what I was saying is looks I do no they Like large numbers but haven ever noticed do the most common amount of rbps in a tank is 3? And also the research I read was about tank size not what to put in it. And also all you have to do is stop commenting if you keep saying "buy a new tank blah blah blah your cruel to fish etc" I didn't post this for you to say crap like that and now it's pissing me off the more u comment

BTW, I knew more about these fish than you do now, way before you were born.

oh and also my dad used to own 3 rbps for 15 years in a 50 gallon tank and told me a lot about them

 

[eaglesaquarium]

Just a reminder that this site is designed for the increased knowledge of all, and for the betterment of our fish.
 
 
Saying that, there are differing views on how big a tank is required for specific species.  
 
Seriouslyfish for example: http/www.seriouslyfish.com/species/Pygocentrus-nattereri/
 
 

Aquarium SizeTOP ↑
Suitable only for public installations or the very largest private aquaria with an aquarium measuring 240 ∗ 90 ∗ 60 cm or equivalent the minimum requirement for a group.

Badmans tropical:  http/badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile7.html
 

 

Listed tank sizes are the minimum​

Size: Up to 12" (30cm) Tank: 48 inches Strata: Bottom-middle PH: 6.0 to 7.5 Hardness: Soft to medium. dH range: 5-18 Temperature: 75°F to 84°F (24-29°C)
 

The challenging thing to consider with this particular species is that two of my favorite sources of information actually have widely varying statements on the minimum sized tank.  Seriouslyfish says 8 feet, Badmans says 4 feet.  Personally, when these types of things happen, I generally lean to the side of caution and wouldn't consider anything less than a 6 foot tank (splitting the difference).  You can also look for a 3rd source... but when searching, you always much consider the source and not just seek out sources that tell you what you want to hear, but always consider the fishes' best interest in mind.
I will add to this that fish should always be kept in a tank that is AT LEAST 1.5 times as WIDE as the fish's maximum length, so that the fish can turn around.  Honestly, I think that is rather small for such fish.
 
 
And let's not make this personal.  If the conversation can't be civil, this thread will be closed.

 

[CthulhuReborn]

Just a reminder that this site is designed for the increased knowledge of all, and for the betterment of our fish.
 
 
Saying that, there are differing views on how big a tank is required for specific species.  
 
Seriouslyfish for example: http/www.seriouslyfish.com/species/Pygocentrus-nattereri/
 
 

Aquarium SizeTOP ↑
Suitable only for public installations or the very largest private aquaria with an aquarium measuring 240 ∗ 90 ∗ 60 cm or equivalent the minimum requirement for a group.

Badmans tropical:  http/badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile7.html
 
 
 

Listed tank sizes are the minimum​

Size: Up to 12" (30cm) Tank: 48 inches Strata: Bottom-middle PH: 6.0 to 7.5 Hardness: Soft to medium. dH range: 5-18 Temperature: 75°F to 84°F (24-29°C)

The challenging thing to consider with this particular species is that two of my favorite sources of information actually have widely varying statements on the minimum sized tank.  Seriouslyfish says 8 feet, Badmans says 4 feet.  Personally, when these types of things happen, I generally lean to the side of caution and wouldn't consider anything less than a 6 foot tank (splitting the difference).  You can also look for a 3rd source... but when searching, you always much consider the source and not just seek out sources that tell you what you want to hear, but always consider the fishes' best interest in mind.
I will add to this that fish should always be kept in a tank that is AT LEAST 1.5 times as WIDE as the fish's maximum length, so that the fish can turn around.  Honestly, I think that is rather small for such fish.  
 
 
 
And let's not make this personal.  If the conversation can't be civil, this thread will be closed.
well I can't put them in a bigger tank and im not sure how wide it is but im trying to be nice and ask what kind of stuff to add to the tank and not once did I mention "oh whats a great tank size"

 

[Bubbelzzz]

Ok how much more gravel? Thanks for helping and are those plants hard to find? And also in my other tank i was going to be unable to buy a bigger tank for my silver dollars and rts so I was going to return them today but I noticed the silver have îck

wonder what category should I make a new post and can you help me quick with that the rts shows no sign but the silvers do

I would say 5-8cm (I guess, 2-3 inches?) of gravel. It's best to make it a little bit thicker on the back and smaller on the front. Where I live you can find Echinodores almost in every store. They are one of the most commonly sold plants. I would suppose it's the same for you. Keep in mind that the roods get very, very long. They can grow over a meter in length so your fish won't pull them out of the substrate easily. Their leaves are pretty thick, so your fish won't tare them to pieces, that easily.
 
For ich, I would recommend esha2000 while you set your heater a few degrees warmer. 

 

[CthulhuReborn]

Ok how much more gravel? Thanks for helping and are those plants hard to find? And also in my other tank i was going to be unable to buy a bigger tank for my silver dollars and rts so I was going to return them today but I noticed the silver have îck wonder what category should I make a new post and can you help me quick with that the rts shows no sign but the silvers do

I would say 5-8cm (I guess, 2-3 inches?) of gravel. It's best to make it a little bit thicker on the back and smaller on the front. Where I live you can find Echinodores almost in every store. They are one of the most commonly sold plants. I would suppose it's the same for you. Keep in mind that the roods get very, very long. They can grow over a meter in length so your fish won't pull them out of the substrate easily. Their leaves are pretty thick, so your fish won't tare them to pieces, that easily.
 
For ich, I would recommend esha2000 while you set your heater a few degrees warmer.

ok thanks today ill go to the store and pick up some live plants I'll look for one of those maybe 2 if there is room for them and maybe some other plants what others do you recomend?