My Cousin Doesnt Know The First Thing About Fishkeeping

[pablothebetta]

They should soon realise that w/cs are nescescary and beneficial rather than harmful - where did they get that idea from?

 

[Aqua Tom]

What about changing their water regularly without them knowing - not lying about it, but just not telling them. Some time down the line, you could tell them what you've been doing - no doubt the tank would be a lot better off for your efforts and they should notice a difference anyway.

If they have (an apropriate) computer, you could leave an apropriate thread from here on the screen for them to see and hope that they read and take note of it.

that also is a good idea. thanks very much. so im gunna be changing his water from now hehe. cant believe i didnt think of that :L

Now that is a can o worms.

good luck


Tom

lol. i have to say you have a lovely set up and looks lovely and clean. but woudnt your angelfish be happier if it had a mate?

Yes it would & as soon as I get the monster tank installed it will have a buddy.


Tom

 

[moochy13]

changing his water for him is ridiculous.

leave him to it, when they start dying he'll probably come ask you why, THEN you tell him what to do and he'll listen. theres no way id be changing water because somebody else is ignorant or lazy. if i was you, id see if there was any fish i wanted in his tank, and and try talk them out of him. other than that, he doesnt want your help, he'll learn the hard way.

 

[FishBlast]

changing his water for him is ridiculous.

leave him to it, when they start dying he'll probably come ask you why, THEN you tell him what to do and he'll listen. theres no way id be changing water because somebody else is ignorant or lazy. if i was you, id see if there was any fish i wanted in his tank, and and try talk them out of him. other than that, he doesnt want your help, he'll learn the hard way.

He'll either listen or just shrug it off, in which case the death of a fish or more will be in vain. People who don't take action at all usually don't care about the fish they have and see them as throw-away pets.

 

[moochy13]

if you go in and change his water without telling him, and then the tank gets better, hes going to think he was right, because his tank is doing great. rubbish idea.. from what ive seen on this forum, people in teh frame of mind your cousin has are already a lost cause. they wotn listen, and they wont care. dont waste your time.

just look forward to your big "i told you so" moment.

 

[deftuch]

if you go in and change his water without telling him, and then the tank gets better, hes going to think he was right, because his tank is doing great. rubbish idea.. from what ive seen on this forum, people in teh frame of mind your cousin has are already a lost cause. they wotn listen, and they wont care. dont waste your time.

just look forward to your big "i told you so" moment.

as much as my cousin deserves to be proven wrong. i somewhat care for the fish in his tank and dont believe they deserve to live in those conditions. we used to go on regualr trips to fish shops but he isnt gunna put anymore fish in there now. thankgod. but if he ever does tag along with me to my local shop i will get someone of some knowledge to do their duty and teazch him the ways

 

[The Taffy Apple]

Do you, yourself, not have the room to take any of that monster bio-load off him?

Terry.

 

[deftuch]

Do you, yourself, not have the room to take any of that monster bio-load off him?

Terry.

no i dont feel his fish are suited for my tanks. esecially not my comm tank.

 

[The Taffy Apple]

Then unless i came up with a plan soon, i think i would let him make his own mistakes. Personally, like.

Terry.

 

[deftuch]

update. the swordtail has died and after treatment for ich all fish are cured except the clown loach who is looking very bad indeed.

 

[The Taffy Apple]

update. the swordtail has died and after treatment for ich all fish are cured except the clown loach who is looking very bad indeed.

Great news...

What about your fish? You mentioned they were suffering with ich..?

Terry.

 

[OldMan47]

I must insert my own prejudices here. When it comes to tank care or almost any similar subject, I am firmly in favor of being up front and honest. If someone has a misconception about how to care for a tank, I will do my best to educate them, but ultimately it is up to them whether or not they learn from me. I cannot condone actions that bypass the people responsible for those fish. In the end those are the people who must answer for their actions. As much as I wish that their fish were treated better, my actions must be set up to work through the people who are responsible for those animals.
Think about it. If I gave them bad advice and their fish suffered, would you blame me or the owners who followed bad advice? How could you blame people following bad advice and not allow them to make their own mistakes and learn from them? Ultimately we each must assume responsibility for our own mistakes. As a MOD here, that is something I am always aware of. Any mis-step on my part may lead to who knows how many unintended consequences. I am the one responsible for those errors by fish keepers, even if contrary evidence exists on the web. People will follow advice that is wrong if they believe that the person giving that advice is one to be trusted. By definition, but not necessarily by experience, I am such a person and I must be careful not to mislead someone.
Do not spend your efforts deceiving the people who are really responsible for fish. As it turns out, the health of those fish are in their hands and they are ultimately responsible for the fish's welfare. Anything you would do to deceive them is counter to having them fulfill their responsibilities.

 

[The Taffy Apple]

Indeed...so your tank is suffering with ich? So what? That's the reason this forum is here.
Why you felt the need to say it was your cousin is beyond me..maybe you felt embaressed, especially after the little episode you had a month or so back, giving people wrong information.

Terry.

 

[FishBlast]

Indeed...so your tank is suffering with ich? So what? That's the reason this forum is here.
Why you felt the need to say it was your cousin is beyond me..maybe you felt embaressed, especially after the little episode you had a month or so back, giving people wrong information.

Terry.

Didn't he say he was already treating his tank for ich before his cousin's tank had ich?

 

[The Taffy Apple]

Indeed...so your tank is suffering with ich? So what? That's the reason this forum is here.
Why you felt the need to say it was your cousin is beyond me..maybe you felt embaressed, especially after the little episode you had a month or so back, giving people wrong information.

Terry.

Didn't he say he was already treating his tank for ich before his cousin's tank had ich?

He may well have, but i had some pretty rude PM's off this user a while back, clearly stating that he knew what he was doing and that the information he was receiving on this forum was wrong (especially when it came to his stocking and cycling), so please excuse me if i come across as a little cynical.

Terry.