My 85gal Bowfront Tank With Pangea Background And Fish

[Shrimper]

I ordered some new fish and shrimp online that I couldn't find locally.

I am having them overnighted next week when I will be home, but here are some pics.

What do you think?

Orange Halo Shrimp:

Black Forest Shrimp:

White Spotted Pearl Shrimp:

Bumble Bee Shrimp:

Red Cherry Shrimp:

Nice shrimps... Most will do well in your tank, the only one that worries me would be the "Black Forest Shrimp".

This to me looks like one of the Sulawesi Shrimp that is also known as a Freshwater Harlequin Shrimp. These are quite new to the trade, i think they were only discovered last year. From what I have read on these guys (and there isn't much info out there) these prefer different conditions to most shrimp. The other shrimp you are getting will be fine with water PH of 6.5 to 7.5 but the Sulawesi prefer 7.5-8.5. Also the Sulawesi prefer warmer water, 28C rather than 25C. Also these guys are smaller than most other dwarf shrimp (like the other ones you have), because of the size they are more likely to get eaten.

There isn't much info available for these shrimp yet, most of what is available is in German. I have managed to find the following links with more info on the Sulawesi Shrimp:
http/www.shrimpnow.com/forums/showthread...awesi-2424.html
http/www.planetinverts.com/shrimp_from_sulawesi.html
http/www.planetinverts.com/Harlequin_Shrimp.html

If you can i would recommend setting up a species tank for these... If they breed successfully you can sell the babies and make some other shrimp keepers happy (and a tidy profit)

As for the other shrimp I think they should all be fine together and like similar conditions. Although the orange ones may try to breed with the Red Cherry Shrimp. In the community tank this is less likely to be an issue as the babies wont survive for long.

 

[invader]

I wouldn't put the shrimp with the Synodontis catfish. They'll eventually become an expensive dinner!

 

[Shrimper]

I wouldn't put the shrimp with the Synodontis catfish. They'll eventually become an expensive dinner!

Didn't notice that fish first time i looked, but do agree on them eating the shrimp.

The shrimp may end up as dinner for the loach as well depending on how big he is.

 

[poconoboss]

Nice shrimps... Most will do well in your tank, the only one that worries me would be the "Black Forest Shrimp".

This to me looks like one of the Sulawesi Shrimp that is also known as a Freshwater Harlequin Shrimp. These are quite new to the trade, i think they were only discovered last year. From what I have read on these guys (and there isn't much info out there) these prefer different conditions to most shrimp. The other shrimp you are getting will be fine with water PH of 6.5 to 7.5 but the Sulawesi prefer 7.5-8.5. Also the Sulawesi prefer warmer water, 28C rather than 25C. Also these guys are smaller than most other dwarf shrimp (like the other ones you have), because of the size they are more likely to get eaten.

There isn't much info available for these shrimp yet, most of what is available is in German. I have managed to find the following links with more info on the Sulawesi Shrimp:
<a href="http/www.shrimpnow.com/forums/showthread...awesi-2424.html" target="_blank">http/www.shrimpnow.com/forums/showthread...awesi-2424.html</a>
<a href="http/www.planetinverts.com/shrimp_from_sulawesi.html" target="_blank">http/www.planetinverts.com/shrimp_from_sulawesi.html</a>
<a href="http/www.planetinverts.com/Harlequin_Shrimp.html" target="_blank">http/www.planetinverts.com/Harlequin_Shrimp.html</a>

If you can i would recommend setting up a species tank for these... If they breed successfully you can sell the babies and make some other shrimp keepers happy (and a tidy profit)

As for the other shrimp I think they should all be fine together and like similar conditions. Although the orange ones may try to breed with the Red Cherry Shrimp. In the community tank this is less likely to be an issue as the babies wont survive for long.

I don't think this is a Sulawesi shrimp, those are VERY expensive and small (1cm), I only paid $2.89 each and the size can get up to 1". The seller also states that the PH and Temp conditions for this shrimp is very versitile.

I have been thinking of setting up a series of smaller tanks and breeding shrimp, or at least just maintaining a planted shrimp tank.

 

[poconoboss]

I wouldn't put the shrimp with the Synodontis catfish. They'll eventually become an expensive dinner!

Didn't notice that fish first time i looked, but do agree on them eating the shrimp.

The shrimp may end up as dinner for the loach as well depending on how big he is.

Thanks for the info!.

The Botia Loach is only about 1.5" and seems content with the food I feed him, he leaves my other small fish alone, he seems very peaceful. As for the cat, he seems to spend all his time hiding in his cave and searching for algae I guess I will have to see.

 

[Shrimper]

I don't think this is a Sulawesi shrimp, those are VERY expensive and small (1cm), I only paid $2.89 each and the size can get up to 1". The seller also states that the PH and Temp conditions for this shrimp is very versitile.

I have been thinking of setting up a series of smaller tanks and breeding shrimp, or at least just maintaining a planted shrimp tank.

Having searched online i guess you are getting them from azgardens?

I would be interested to see what they look like when they arrive... On the advert it says "aka Black Diamond Shrimp", this is normally another name for the bee shrimp that CRS were bred from. Plus some the info on their other ads is a bit suspect, they say the male Cherry shrimp are redder than the female but it is the other way round.

 

[MXPX4318]

I must agree with invader and shrimper, putting shrimp in with that synodontis will turn your shrimp in to one expensive treat for him. The synodontis cats tend to be more nocturnal animals which is why you don't see him out and about too much during the day, but at night they seem to lurk around more looking for food. Just a friendly word of caution. check out what planet catfish has to say about them: [URL="http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=121"]http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=121[/URL]
(total body length as adult: 8.7", best with MEDIUM to LARGE community fish) and from my experience with them (kept them with a pair of angels in a 37) they grow rather quickly he was bought at around 2" and was nearing 4-5" in less than 8 months time. Might want to consider a new home for him before adding those shrimp.

Other then that word of caution I think that the tank looks great, I personally really like the gravel over the sand idea (and I've kept my fair share of sandy tanks). Is that background resin or more like foam? It is quite impressive.

Phillip

 

[dortiz24]

I love the 'background' of your tank! It looks great!

 

[poconoboss]

I must agree with invader and shrimper, putting shrimp in with that synodontis will turn your shrimp in to one expensive treat for him. The synodontis cats tend to be more nocturnal animals which is why you don't see him out and about too much during the day, but at night they seem to lurk around more looking for food. Just a friendly word of caution. check out what planet catfish has to say about them: <a href="http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=121" target="_blank">http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=121</a>
(total body length as adult: 8.7", best with MEDIUM to LARGE community fish) and from my experience with them (kept them with a pair of angels in a 37) they grow rather quickly he was bought at around 2" and was nearing 4-5" in less than 8 months time. Might want to consider a new home for him before adding those shrimp.

Other then that word of caution I think that the tank looks great, I personally really like the gravel over the sand idea (and I've kept my fair share of sandy tanks). Is that background resin or more like foam? It is quite impressive.

Phillip

Thank you very much for the info guys (Shrimper too )

After researching this fish further I realize he is not suitable for my tank and he will be getting a new home on Friday.

I will confess that when I bought him I did something that I usually do not do, which is NOT being aware of his species beforehand. I saw him in a local shop and thought he was really nice looking. The clerk (apparantly not knowledgable, and not the shop I usually buy from) said he was not agressive so long as you keep him alone (not with others of his type), he also told me he would max out at 4".

Usually, I do not make spot decisions like this, but I was so taken with his good looks ( the fish, not the clerk )

I realize that every fish is different and somethimes it's hard to "classify" a temperament since some fish may be more agreessive or more peaceful than others of the same species. However, this species was definitely misrepresented to me and not right for my tank.

It is my goal to keep many small sized peaceful fish, obviously he has to go.

I also believe he may be the reason 3-4 of my Cardnials have gone "missing" or dead, stuck to my filter intake in the last 10 days (about the same time I had him)

About the background, it is made from a high density polyurethane industrial foam, and then painted. Which makes it very light weight.

 

[Shrimper]

How are the new shrimp and fish?

Do you have them yet?

 

[Straydum]

the background is crazy! i havent seen anything like it. i thought at first it was a paste on until the center rock came 'out'. lovely!

 

[TheConstantGrower]

beautiful tank decoration, and great fish selection.

Question: Did you cycle the tank before adding fish or are you just doing a fish in cycle?

 

[poconoboss]

How are the new shrimp and fish?

Do you have them yet?

I have mixed feelings about this order.

The shrimp are extremely small (about 1/2 inch and thin ) They hide all the time and I never see them. While cleaning the gravel, I found one that buried himself under the gravel?

The Bolivian rams were nice specimens, but lacked the amount of color I expected. The hillstream loach arrived dead.

I absolutely love the dwarf corys, they are so cute and they are constantly on the move cleaning the tank and my son loves them, he thinks they are so cool cause they are so small.

Subsequently, I ordered a Singapore Shrimp from another dealer, and I love that shrimp, he is a good size and it's fun to watch him use his fans while feeding. He also changes colors. He turns bright red sometimes and other times he changes to the color of my backround when he is climbing on it. I will be getting some more of them. I may also try getting some CRS.

beautiful tank decoration, and great fish selection.

Question: Did you cycle the tank before adding fish or are you just doing a fish in cycle?

I cycled it with about 10 inexpensive fish before I added the rest.

 

[Shrimper]

I have mixed feelings about this order.

The shrimp are extremely small (about 1/2 inch and thin ) They hide all the time and I never see them. While cleaning the gravel, I found one that buried himself under the gravel?

The Bolivian rams were nice specimens, but lacked the amount of color I expected. The hillstream loach arrived dead.

I absolutely love the dwarf corys, they are so cute and they are constantly on the move cleaning the tank and my son loves them, he thinks they are so cool cause they are so small.

Subsequently, I ordered a Singapore Shrimp from another dealer, and I love that shrimp, he is a good size and it's fun to watch him use his fans while feeding. He also changes colors. He turns bright red sometimes and other times he changes to the color of my backround when he is climbing on it. I will be getting some more of them. I may also try getting some CRS.

Hopefully the shrimp will be less shy when they grow a bit. Its a shame about the loach i guess that the risk of geting fish delivered.

At least the corys are doing well Did you get the Galaxy Rasbora? They are another fish i would like to keep one day.

Good choice on the singapore shrimp. I want to get a filter shrimp for my big tank at some point over the summer. From what i've read they prefer a mature tank as there wont be much food for them to filter in a newly set up tank so i'm letting mine mature nicely at the moment

Edit: I forgot to say if you want CRS i definitely recommend a species tank so they can breed... The babies are amazing!

 

[Duck and Dive]

Love the background, love the fish, love the decor...Love all of it!