My 55 Gallon Tank

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i do have a few fish in my tank and they are all going to be big.. i was just wandering how soon yall think i should upgrade, and to what size to be perfect for their lifes. also i was wandering what would be best to put in the tank for them. they tore all the plants i put in up.

i have..

3 red devils- the largest is about 6 inches, the smallest is 4 1/2 inches
4 convicts- they are still about 1 1/2 inch- 2 1/2 inches
2 gars- 1 is at 11 inches, the other is at about 9
1 black belt
1 golden jaguar who is about 6 inches
1 pacu who is about 4 inches
1 peacock eel who stays under the rocks and who is only like 4 inches



thank you,

chris beckworth

if you want a picture of any of the fish let me know
 
A rough glance with my unpracticed eye makes me think you have easily over 100 inches of fish, so I'm sure once the experience members get through looking they will be recommending a really huge tank or the re-homing of some fish!

How many weeks was your fishless cycle?

~~waterdrop~~
 
what is a fishless cycle? ha.. i have had the red devils for about 4 months.. all the others about 2 months.. except for the pacu and the larger gar
 
well where to begin:

First things first... dont take anything anyones says as condesending to your intelligence or preferences. Anything we recommend to you is for the health and benefit of the fish themselves :good:

The red devils might form a pair and if this happens, almost everything in the tank will most suredly be killed.

If any of the cons form a pair, everything will be harrassed violently and possibily causing serious damage to larger fish which easy get infected and kill them.

The gars... depending on what species it is (one of the largest species easily reaching 6 to 7' in the wild) should not be in this tank. They are rigid backboned fish and unlike fish such as arowana who also grow large, they can not bend their bodies very easily and as a consequence, need very wide tanks (atleast twice the size of the adult size is prefered) to turn around. Some of the smaller species (I believe the shortnose or the spotted is the smallest) can still grow towards and above 2' I believe, so for these guys, you need a huge tank. These are usually in a classification called tankbusters because of their huge adult sizes.

Jags can be very aggressive fish and I have heard experiences about black belts laying down the law

Pacu's should not be sold in the home aquaria market. They can reach lengths of 24 to 30" and need tanks that really only professional aquariums or zoos can give them.

Its not surprising that the eel stays hidden... prob afraid he will run into someone who would like to nibble on him since he is still small for an eel.


Bottom line... things have worked so far because you have caused what is called a "forced truce." This is a style popular in Japan and causes some large and aggressive fish to coexist because not one fish can claim territory or really pick just one tankmate to beat up on. This is not a healthy state for the fish and is very unnnatural. Eventually, something will snap in one fish and a brawl will insue leaving maybe only a few survivors. For information on this read This

I would say you would be overstocking that tank with just the four cons and one of either the black belt, jag or rd....

So Two choices:
  • Look into building a tank in the 100's or maybe even thousands of gallons (depending on what species of gar you have) - not completely feasible for most
  • Return prob 75%+ of those fish including: 2 x rd's, the black belt, 3 x cons, the gars, and the pacu

With Just a single con, rd, jag and the eel, it could work for a awhile, but even then, if aggression pops up, you may need to look into a 75G or 90G tank

Just to add too I guess: The inch rule is only realy applicable when looking at smaller schooling fish. With bigger more aggressive fish (ie cichlids) that rule has to go out the window because of territorial needs...

Fishless cycle: Click Here

Ox :good:
 
thanks man. im not sure what kind of gar it is when i baught them he just said gar but i have pictures..
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that is my largest red devil and the largest convict
 
Hi Chris ox has pretty much covered everything really, but IMO your gars and pacu def need rehoming unless you are planning a serious monster tank or tropical pond,
as for the black belt, jag and red devils, a 55G is probably the bare minimum recommended size for one of these fish, alone without any tankmates, once they mature problems will come thick and fast.
I'm also feeling for your peacock eel, this will no doubt end up as food regardless of the tank size,
To keep just 1 Red devil, the jag, the black belt and possibly a pair of cons i'd say you'd be looking at a tanksize of around 400G and even then this is not guaranteed to work, (have a search for some of nellys posts about aggression in his tank, and his fish are arguably less aggressive species)


Edit: I think that is a spotted gar? if so an adult size of 2 to 3 feet is what you should expect
 
I agree that it is a spotted gar. They are one of the smaller (or maybe the smallest) species of gar, but still a tankbuster and will get far too big for your tank here.

Def need to rehome atleast the fish that I mentioned above

Ox :good:
 

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