Multiple Problems With Plants, Help Identify, Aponogeton Melting

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Do you mean to move the inlet pipe of the external filter under the outlet to the left side?
And then put the power head on the right side blowing the opposite direction of the external filter outlet?
 
The powerhead used to be on the right side before but blew all the sand beneath it from right to left so I moved it. Here is an old picture. Should I put it back?

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Yeah have the inlet and outlet in the same place and have the powerhead lower on opposite side blowing back to the pump inlet, you'll have a nice circular flow round the whole tank then.
 
The deficiency looks to me like iron. I would keep the flow beneath the surface if dosing with Co2 or it will release faster to the atmosphere. Light sounds good. Aponogetan die back seems odd, possibly stressed by something..high temp, ph fluctuation, or algae buildup
 
OK. I'll try that next time I do a water change.
The only problem is the powerhead may blow the aponogeton away but I'll figure that out.
 
Can you reposition the Aponogeton? Also remember you want a gentle sway of the plants so if it blows a storm just adjust till your happy.

Cuda - He is dosing Iron and using liquid carbon.

If anything mate I'd say dose some N&P too as your dosing carbon which will make the plants try to photo synthesize faster using up the 2 nutrients your not dosing (nitrates and phosphates) and keep surface movement to a ripple too.
 
Im not familiar with the product he is using, but sure looke like an iron deficiency to me.
 
I am dosing seachem nitrogen too, the ammount recommended on the bottle for a week, I spread it over each day instead along with the micro ferts. Not sure how correct the fish shop guy was but he initially thought iron too then said if it's on the tips it could be something else, so suggested to dose extra from the micro. I can grab some iron of course additionally. Would it hurt to dose some more? The Profito Ferts I am using actually contain a bit extra iron then most ferts from what I found out but not sure.

I couldn't wait and just moved the filter inlet to the left and the powerhead on the right side blowing against it(not sure). I spooked the hell out of the fish
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Is there any reason the new position of the inlet/outlet affect the external filter flow? It just looks a bit less now but it could be because the powerhead is breaking it when blowing against it maybe?

Edit: Yeah, the aponogeton looks quite a bit blown there. I'll do it during the water change next time...as I am exhausted :)
 
You dont want it blowing against it,you want the powerhead low so as the flow comes along the top it hits the far side of the tank, moves downwards and the powerhead blows it along the bottom towards the inlet.

Your fert has iron in it so doubt you'll need more, do you dose phosphates too or just nitrates?
 
The macro ferts contain nitrate, phosphate and potassium, it's three in one.
I am uploading a short video. It's taken in the dark but it shows the flow a bit. Is the aponogeton blown too much?
I had it on the left side before but the leaves kept being picked up by the external filter outlet, so I am running out of room where to put it :) Wish I could get a bigger tank.
I pushed the powerhead a bit down further. How long down should it be? And is it ok in the middle of the right side wall? Should it point a bit down or a bit up? Sorry for so many questions. I actually asked this on the forum long time ago when setting up the tank but no one answered it so I experimented and followed the external filter instructions to set it up in the two opposite sides of the tank.

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I pushed the powerhead further down, right inside the anubias to the left and the aponogeton took a break but now the anubias is having an earthquake. But this way it should do what you were trying to explain and I wasn't getting :)If the leaves are not transparent by tomorrow from the flow I'll leave it like that for now. Need to check if the sand stays clean as well like that.
 
Sounds like you got it right if its coming along the top, down one side to the powerhead and back along the bottom towards filter inlet, should be low or aiming at the inlet.
 
It's a bit hard to do because the tree trunk in the middle is blocking the line. I'll see how it goes for the next few days.There'll be pleco poop the least if there are dead spots.
Just another question, but why is it better for the flow to be like that in a circle?
The way it was before, the powerhead was blowiing the debris and water from the left side to the ride, which got picked up by the external filter and pushed further to the right towards the intake tubes. So the flow was kind of unidirectional.
 
New problem. One of the old leaves of my center anubias is going yellow. I know it's normal for some old leaves to die but this must have happened within the last day or two and it has never happened to the big anubias plants before. It was perfectly dark and healthy green when I opened this thread. Another defficiency maybe?
 
Yellowing is usually CO2 problems. Don't worry too much it'll bounce back. The reason for the circular flow is the flow will compliment all other water movement making the tanks entire flow more powerful and natural.
 

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