Multiple Female In Tank

[ghettofarmulous]

So iv got a new 24" x 15w x 12h, Fluval 205, 100w heater, pressurised C02 dosing ready to be assembled. Will be planting heavy with sandy substrate. My question is..

From experience can one house a group of say 7 - 10 female bettas along with 6 corys, cherry shrimp and one Bristlenose?

Also can a male be thrown in the mix or will be be bullied to death? The tank will have loads of hiding places.

is it better to get young females from the same parents as they have been together since birth?

Cheers lads
Paul

 

[Liquid skills]

Seems like quite a few fish there personally I
Wouldn't have that many in that tank it seems small for the 6 corys and a bn

 

[Cazgar]

Wouldn't have that many fish in a tank that size & definitely not have a male Betta in with the females

 

[ghettofarmulous]

Seems like quite a few fish there personally I
Wouldn't have that many in that tank it seems small for the 6 corys and a bn

Wouldn't have that many fish in a tank that size & definitely not have a male Betta in with the females

Cool. advice taken aboard. I was planning on going with small corys and just a few bettas, Dont want big fish or to overstock it at all, will probable be better with 3 females and five corrys?

 

[Nova]

I'm no good with tank size measurements, what size is that in gallons? Like 15 or 20 gallons? I think you'll have to choose between the cories or the females, that is a little over stocked, I have 11 females, 4 black neon tetras and a pleco in my 30 gallon, and it seems to work well.

 

[fuzzynicki]

you are best off having at least 5 females together to cut down on aggression between them. Really not advisable to have less than 5. Definitely no males in there! All the shrimp I've had in with bettas have been munched Some small fish like otos or pitbull plecs may be ok. They don't grow very big,- but you do need a few of them as they group.

 

[Liquid skills]

Even though I agree with more females ine my girls where a lot better with 7 females min also I have a breeder trap in the top with a male in as the fry has his tank all the girls show so little aggression towards each other since the males is in the floating tank (I don't recommend this though but with needs must due to fry)
But yeh females only in that tank would look great especially with fluffy cabomba (plant) planted all the way through the middle to the back of the tank

 

[lilfishie]

The cories won't be happy with a just a few if your thinking dwarfs you need at least 10.

I've done 5 females with a BN before in that size tank with no issues wouldn't add more though.


You best to get all your females at the same time they don't have to be sisters that will reduce the aggression though

 

[tropicalfish311]

Seems good to me

 

[ghettofarmulous]

Thanks for the input and comments. Im on a nice steep learning curve since I bought my Edge. Nice little tank but can be overstocked v.easily. In mine is 2 Anubas nana, one Bronze cory, two Starba corry, Four Neon tetras and Two male Guppys. They are all displaying natural behavoir according to some literature and dont appear to be afraid of me. I like to bury small pellets in the gravel and keep the Corys entertained, what a delightful fish.

Iv been monitoring water parameters weekly before water changes for months and also streak, grow and identify what bacteria are present in my filter. I assume as long as Nitrobacter TVC levels remain constant along with Nitrite and Nitrate levels then the water is in good condition. Ph, Hardness ammonia are also monitored. All fins/ Barbels are mint. No aggressive behavoir. The bronze cory is about 2 half years old and seems quite content.

So i will not be buying any more fish for my 70L. I think when i transfere everything over I will rehome the Corys as i cant fit any more

The target for me is to set up an ecosystem that promotes natural behavoir.

cheers again for the input.

 

[Fishball7]

if youre going heavily planted, youll need a decent light and fertilisers since you have co2. What plants are you looking to get?

I think youll be better off rehoming your guppies than corys as guppies prefer very hard and more alkaline water, vs neons and bettas if youre going to keep them which like very soft and more acidic water. I wouldnt have a bn vs cory as bn will get too big for your tank and theyre reknown poop machines. Fish eat shrimps so be prepared for a few losses. But if the shrimps are happy enough they can reproduce far faster than getting eaten. Presuming four neons, corys and shrimps, you might be better off with one male betta. Im not a fan of overstocking tanks; other than the water quality, i dont like the look of squished fish with little space to swim.

 

[ghettofarmulous]

if youre going heavily planted, youll need a decent light and fertilisers since you have co2. What plants are you looking to get?

I think youll be better off rehoming your guppies than corys as guppies prefer very hard and more alkaline water, vs neons and bettas if youre going to keep them which like very soft and more acidic water. I wouldnt have a bn vs cory as bn will get too big for your tank and theyre reknown poop machines. Fish eat shrimps so be prepared for a few losses. But if the shrimps are happy enough they can reproduce far faster than getting eaten. Presuming four neons, corys and shrimps, you might be better off with one male betta. Im not a fan of overstocking tanks; other than the water quality, i dont like the look of squished fish with little space to swim.

Here in Aberdeen the water tends to be softer, its not a limestone region. Hardness is low as is PH. Is it possible to keep such corries (bronze, Sterbai) in a tank this size? Just Corrys and 1 male Betta would be a pleasure with a few shrimps. I know a guy who has an Army of Guppys in a 50g so i can offload them.

Just like yourself I certainly dont want to overstock. Im not a fan of the argument that if the aquarium has Super Efficient filtration that you can get away with a few more fish as it has a higher bioburden capacity.

As for plants im still researching. Was going for a simple jungle triangle look with sand substrate. A couple of Anubias species, Java Fern, and Some sort of Moss on driftwood. Lots of hiding places and few caves with open area. Would you suggest other plants to go in the mix?

Will be dosing with ferts and using pressurised Co2. Still need to aquire correct lighting. It will be DIY hood anyway.
Not going to bother with Fertilized substrate as i hear the sand will eventually make its way down through the bottom layer. especially with corys sniffing around.

 

[Fishball7]

They should be fine in the tank that size.

How hard and ph? I like to go for 6.5 to 7 ph and less than 5 kh and gh for betta and neons. Not sure about Cory.

With the plants you're after, they're all low light plants. Too high a light and I've read Anubias can melt. Their placement will need consideration if thats the case. High light also means big fast growth. I assumed youre going to be mid to high light with pressurised co2. i am also going for a two ft planted with plants you have, lol, and sand too, albeit mid tech ie DIY co2, med light and ferts, side slope driftwood. There's a planted tank website forum that has a plantpedia.

 

[Mammabe]

you are best off having at least 5 females together to cut down on aggression between them. Really not advisable to have less than 5. Definitely no males in there! All the shrimp I've had in with bettas have been munched Some small fish like otos or pitbull plecs may be ok. They don't grow very big,- but you do need a few of them as they group.

Fuzzynicki - that betta in your picture is so cool! love his colour!! Just wanted to tell you that!

 

[ghettofarmulous]

They should be fine in the tank that size.

How hard and ph? I like to go for 6.5 to 7 ph and less than 5 kh and gh for betta and neons. Not sure about Cory.

With the plants you're after, they're all low light plants. Too high a light and I've read Anubias can melt. Their placement will need consideration if thats the case. I assumed youre going to be mid to high light with pressurised co2. i am also going for a two ft planted with plants you have, lol, and sand too, albeit mid tech ie DIY co2, med light and ferts, side slope driftwood. There's a planted tank website forum that has a plantpedia.

PH is a constant 6.5 - 7. kh and gh are always less then 5. so very similar results. I hadnt given much thought to med or high light. Id like to go in between, what sort of W per gallon should i expect for this setup?

Found that website. Quite a library of information. cheers for that.