Molly’s lips separated from mouth

[JenR]

it looks like her (I think) bottom lip is separated from her mouth!?!! What is this? Does this happen to fish frequently? Is this contagious? Pls help .

(She’s one of the babies I still have in breeder box until she gets big enough)

I wasn’t able to upload the video OR a pic! It keeps saying file too large to a 1 sec video or even a pic.

 

[Colin_T]

Hi and welcome to the forum

Can you post a picture and short 20 second video of the fish?
If the pictures are too big for the website, set the camera's resolution to its lowest setting and take some more. The lower resolution will make the images smaller and they should fit on this website. Check the pictures on your pc and find a couple that are clear and show the problem, and post them here. Make sure you turn the camera's resolution back up after you have taken the pics otherwise all your pictures will be small.

If the video is too big for this website, post it on YouTube and copy & paste the link here. We can view it at YouTube. If you are using a mobile phone to take the video, have the phone horizontal so the video takes up the entire screen. If you have the phone vertical, you get video in the middle and black on either side.

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How long have you had the fish for?
What other fish are in the tank?
Have you added anything to the tank in the last few weeks?

How long has the tank been set up for?
What is the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH and GH levels in the water?

How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?

What sort of filter do you have on the tank?
How often do you clean the filter and how do you clean it?

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The following link has information about what to do if your fish gets sick. It's long and boring but worth knowing. I recommend printing it out and reading it in bed to help fall asleep.
http://www.fishforums.net/threads/what-to-do-if-your-fish-gets-sick.450268/

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Assuming the water quality is good, you can try adding salt.

You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.

 

[JenR]

Thank you! I will try and mess with the settings or YouTube. One moment.

My son had fish with his dad, but his dad died, so I just inherited this fish tank a few months ago. I am very new to the fish world and don’t know much.

I started feeding them bloodworm and brine shrimp and pees, and bc it makes such a mess, I clean the tank almost every other day, sometimes every day, bc it seems so cloudy. I’ve brought the water in to petco and they tested the water last night and they said it was fine.

I have guppies, glow fish, all Dalmatian Molly’s, 1 angel, some tetras, and those see through fish, Placosomus, And catfish. We have a 55 - 60 g tank.

The balloon Molly’s were originally fry and when 2 got big enough I got 2 Regular Dalmatian Molly’s and 2 adult balloon Molly so they would have a school to swim with and not be 2 little small fish swimming by themselves. But the two remaining in the breeder box are the last two babies and one of those babies is having the lip/mouth issue.

I use gravel. I use the hang on filter of the back of tank. I just cleaned it yesterday for first time since I’ve had the tank for 2 months. Yes I know I slipped on that. And I might’ve over cleaned it after reading about it here. I cleaned it with tap water and had the tap water run on the sponge in a bucket for probably 45 min. I use aquarium salt, api stress coat and api quick start when changing out water. I’ll upload the video in a min. Thank you so much

Hi and welcome to the forum

Can you post a picture and short 20 second video of the fish?
If the pictures are too big for the website, set the camera's resolution to its lowest setting and take some more. The lower resolution will make the images smaller and they should fit on this website. Check the pictures on your pc and find a couple that are clear and show the problem, and post them here. Make sure you turn the camera's resolution back up after you have taken the pics otherwise all your pictures will be small.

If the video is too big for this website, post it on YouTube and copy & paste the link here. We can view it at YouTube. If you are using a mobile phone to take the video, have the phone horizontal so the video takes up the entire screen. If you have the phone vertical, you get video in the middle and black on either side.

----------------------
How long have you had the fish for?
What other fish are in the tank?
Have you added anything to the tank in the last few weeks?

How long has the tank been set up for?
What is the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH and GH levels in the water?

How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?

What sort of filter do you have on the tank?
How often do you clean the filter and how do you clean it?

----------------------
The following link has information about what to do if your fish gets sick. It's long and boring but worth knowing. I recommend printing it out and reading it in bed to help fall asleep.
http://www.fishforums.net/threads/what-to-do-if-your-fish-gets-sick.450268/

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Assuming the water quality is good, you can try adding salt.

You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.

thank you!

 

[JenR]

Ok I couldn’t get it load no matter what setting I had. The original video is very clear. But the one on YouTube is blurry . I’m not very tech savvy either . Hopefully you can turn your settings higher and see the video more clearly? Or does this have to be done from my end?

Thank you! I will try and mess with the settings or YouTube. One moment.

My son had fish with his dad, but his dad died, so I just inherited this fish tank a few months ago. I am very new to the fish world and don’t know much.

I started feeding them bloodworm and brine shrimp and pees, and bc it makes such a mess, I clean the tank almost every other day, sometimes every day, bc it seems so cloudy. I’ve brought the water in to petco and they tested the water last night and they said it was fine.

I have guppies, glow fish, all Dalmatian Molly’s, 1 angel, some tetras, and those see through fish, Placosomus, And catfish. We have a 55 - 60 g tank.

The balloon Molly’s were originally fry and when 2 got big enough I got 2 Regular Dalmatian Molly’s and 2 adult balloon Molly so they would have a school to swim with and not be 2 little small fish swimming by themselves. But the two remaining in the breeder box are the last two babies and one of those babies is having the lip/mouth issue.

I use gravel. I use the hang on filter of the back of tank. I just cleaned it yesterday for first time since I’ve had the tank for 2 months. Yes I know I slipped on that. And I might’ve over cleaned it after reading about it here. I cleaned it with tap water and had the tap water run on the sponge in a bucket for probably 45 min. I use aquarium salt, api stress coat and api quick start when changing out water. I’ll upload the video in a min. Thank you so much


thank you!

Hi and welcome to the forum

Can you post a picture and short 20 second video of the fish?
If the pictures are too big for the website, set the camera's resolution to its lowest setting and take some more. The lower resolution will make the images smaller and they should fit on this website. Check the pictures on your pc and find a couple that are clear and show the problem, and post them here. Make sure you turn the camera's resolution back up after you have taken the pics otherwise all your pictures will be small.

If the video is too big for this website, post it on YouTube and copy & paste the link here. We can view it at YouTube. If you are using a mobile phone to take the video, have the phone horizontal so the video takes up the entire screen. If you have the phone vertical, you get video in the middle and black on either side.

----------------------
How long have you had the fish for?
What other fish are in the tank?
Have you added anything to the tank in the last few weeks?

How long has the tank been set up for?
What is the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH and GH levels in the water?

How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?

What sort of filter do you have on the tank?
How often do you clean the filter and how do you clean it?

----------------------
The following link has information about what to do if your fish gets sick. It's long and boring but worth knowing. I recommend printing it out and reading it in bed to help fall asleep.
http://www.fishforums.net/threads/what-to-do-if-your-fish-gets-sick.450268/

----------------------
Assuming the water quality is good, you can try adding salt.

You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.

Hi and welcome to the forum

Can you post a picture and short 20 second video of the fish?
If the pictures are too big for the website, set the camera's resolution to its lowest setting and take some more. The lower resolution will make the images smaller and they should fit on this website. Check the pictures on your pc and find a couple that are clear and show the problem, and post them here. Make sure you turn the camera's resolution back up after you have taken the pics otherwise all your pictures will be small.

If the video is too big for this website, post it on YouTube and copy & paste the link here. We can view it at YouTube. If you are using a mobile phone to take the video, have the phone horizontal so the video takes up the entire screen. If you have the phone vertical, you get video in the middle and black on either side.

----------------------
How long have you had the fish for?
What other fish are in the tank?
Have you added anything to the tank in the last few weeks?

How long has the tank been set up for?
What is the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH and GH levels in the water?

How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change?
Do you gravel clean the substrate when you do a water change?

What sort of filter do you have on the tank?
How often do you clean the filter and how do you clean it?

----------------------
The following link has information about what to do if your fish gets sick. It's long and boring but worth knowing. I recommend printing it out and reading it in bed to help fall asleep.
http://www.fishforums.net/threads/what-to-do-if-your-fish-gets-sick.450268/

----------------------
Assuming the water quality is good, you can try adding salt.

You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), sea salt or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate will affect some plants. The lower dose rate will not affect plants.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that.

 

[Colin_T]

I cant tell anything from the video.

I need a side view and front view of the fish.

Turn your phone so it's horizontal when filming or photographing.

 

[FishGuest5123]

Very hard to determine. Is she able to eat? Is this something new? She may have been injured. If so, keep water extremely clean and watch it. If you see any fungus or fuzzy appearance begin to show then it may be a bacterial disease.

 

[JenR]

Did you try zooming in? Bc that’s the only way I can see his lips, they even shape into a wiggle towards the end bc they’re not attached to the mouth. She’s a baby and has only ever been with 1-3 other babies in the “baby tank” so I’m not sure how she would have injured herself. I didn’t know if this was something common or if there was anything I could do or to prevent it from happening.

I took stills of a video and you can see the wiggle of the lip fully out, then one slightly out and one closed.

 

[Colin_T]

you need to post pictures that clearly show the issue.

 

[JenR]

You still can’t see from those pictures? I’m sorry, I’m doing the best I can.

Here is the video but you need to change your setting on YouTube to 480 for it come in clear.

 

[JenR]

She eats fine and it doesn’t seem to bother her at all. Tbh I just noticed this a few days ago. I don’t think she had this problem before. I’m new to fish but I find them funny and interesting and sometimes watch them for hours haha. My family and friends think I’m on crack watching them for hours on end lol.

 

[FishGuest5123]

I think we all understand. Sometimes I pull up a stool and watch them. Other than injury, I honestly don’t know about your fry. Perhaps it was a birth defect that went unnoticed until now. Keep it and love it and see how it grows. Good luck!