Mistake During Water Change

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I did a 20% water change on my 29 gal tank this weekend.  During the change I did not put the filter into some of the old water but mistakenly left it out on the table.  It was out for as long as it took me to scrub the sides of the tank, vac and siphon off the water and replace the water. Did I kill off the bacteria?  My Nitrate and Nitrite values which had been great (0) have risen to 10 and .5.   What should I do? Will my fish be ok?
 
Brittgs
 
Did the filter stay wet?  It takes quite a while for the media to dry out if still in the filter casing.  Sounds like you have lost some bacteria if your nitrite has risen.  You should almost always see nitrate though as its being converted from nitrite. How old is the tank and did you fully cycle it?
 
I would do at least a 50% water change as you want your nitrite below 0.25!
 
I too don't think it would have killed all the bacteria.
 
Just curious, have you always has a reading of 0 Nitrate as well as Nitrite? A cycled filter would produce some levels of Nitrate in the tank. 
The Nitrate of 10 is fine, for the Nitrite it is best to do immediate water changes to bring those as close to 0 as you can! Do a retest first to see if the reading before was accurate. What kind of method do you use for testing the levels by the way? Are you using the liquid test kit or the dip stick test strips?
Oh, and just to be sure you may want to see if you have any ammonia in the tank.
 
Thanks for your replies 214jay and Meeresstille. I did a full fishless cycle when I started the tank, then added cherry barbs, two weeks later harlequin rasbora and two weeks after that cory cats.
 
The filter stayed in its casing and when I picked it up to put back in the tank some water ran out so it did not totally dry out.
 
I am using dip sticks which I realize are not as accurate as the liquid tests.  I will get the liquid test kit today.  I have had nitrates in the tank.  When I started the tank up I used the water at my studio which is county water (which tastes terrible to me).  When I have done water changes I have hauled the water from home as it is well water.
 
I will do a big water change this afternoon to get the nitrites down.
 
I really suspect your test strips are the problem.  As long as the filter media stays wet it can last for a long time so that should not be a problem.  Keep us informed when you get the liquid test kit!  I would just keep an eye on your fish, if they act strange or if some thing looks wrong then do a big water change.
 
If you got no ammonia reading, I would leave the tank alone and monitor it. If the nitrite starts to rise or you see the fish at the surface, you can add a bit of salt to the water or do water changes. To counteract nitrite one can use chloride to block the nitrite. Just add plain old salt, which is 2/3 chloride, to achieve a concentration of 10 times that of the nitrite. In water the ppm are essentially = mg/l, so we work with grams and litres. Lets assume your tank goes up to 1 ppm of nitrite. I count a 29 gal as closer to 95 litres, after subtracting for glass and decor:
 
1 ppm N02  x 10 = 10 mg/l x 95l x 1.5/1,000 = 1.425 gm. salt.
 
The 1.5 comes from needing that much salt to get 1 mg/l of chloride (2/3 of salt is chloride). The divide by 1,000 is to convert milligrams to grams. As you can see this is not much salt. I have an Ohaus triple beam gram scale and 1/4 level teaspoon of Morton's Salt weighs about 1.5 gm. Note: The only way to remove salt from a tank is via water changes.
 
For those unaware 1/4 teaspoon in 29 gals is almost a trace amount compared to true sw for dips etc.
 
Salinity measurements. A 3ppT or 5 ppT (parts per thousand) salt solution is equivalent to 0.3% or 0.5% salinity, or 3 or 5 grams per liter, or 3 or 5 teaspoons of salt per gallon. This is the standard recommendation for salt treatment for skin parasites and for Ich that you will find at Doc Johnson's KoiVet.
from http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/salt
 
The nice thing about this method is, in regards to getting the bacteria that might be missing back to strength, the salt doesn't affect the bacteria itself nor its ability to process nitrite. What is does is block the effects of nitrite inside the fish. This is an old trick used by bind keepers and aquaculture where water changes are not practical. This insures the shortest amount of time with nitrite readings before the bacteria can handle it all.
 
I got the API freshwater master test kit and got these readings:
pH 6.8
Ammonia .25 ppm
Nitrite .5 ppm
Nitrate 5.0 ppm

Thank you Two Tank for the info on tha NaCl.
 
As they have said, your media should be ok... and please do get that API master tester... having accurate readings is very important. ;)
 
 
"and please do get that API master tester"
 Looks like he has according to his last post (post #7)
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Hows your tank looking now Brittgs?

 
 
Skies said:
As they have said, your media should be ok... and please do get that API master tester... having accurate readings is very important.
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Sorry about that, I missed it!
 
brittgs said:
I got the API freshwater master test kit and got these readings:
pH 6.8
Ammonia .25 ppm
Nitrite .5 ppm
Nitrate 5.0 ppm

Thank you Two Tank for the info on tha NaCl.
I would do a 50% water change to lower the Nitrite and Ammonia.
 
Added the 1/4 tsp salt as suggested by Two Tank to protect fish.  I did the 50% water change yesterday.  I tested this morning and ammonia and nitrite numbers are down.  Don't have the chart with me right now to give you the exact readings but I am feeling encouraged.  I will test again tomorrow and post the values.  The fish all seem to be behaving as usual-active and eating well.
 
Values this morning:
pH 6.8
Ammonia <.25
Nitrite 0
Nitrate <5

I used the < when I thought the readings came in between two of the colors on the chart. All the fish seem fine and busy. Thanks for the advice and encouragement.

Brittgs
 

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