Middle East Woes

[hughessomefish]

As this fourm is for people all over the world, we should talk about the current events that are unfolding in the middle East & In Northern Africa. We have seen Protests In Libya,Morroco,Yemen,Bharain, And we have seen freedomes won in Tunsia and Egypt.Libya looks like it will be next in getting freedome from their tyrant of 40 years.

What is your take on the Middle east?

 

[markp2067]

My honest take...... its scary as hell. Alot of very quiet giants are being awoken that should have been left to sleep. This amount of unrest is not good for the world and could lead to a lot of serious problems for every one

 

[james_fish]

Very different from the west it would appear. Agree with the above post, this could affect the rest of the world at some point if it doesn't die down.

James.

 

[Squidward]

Very different from the west it would appear. Agree with the above post, this could affect the rest of the world at some point if it doesn't die down.

James.

Very different from the West?

Rising costs; rising unemployment; rising taxes.......

There are going to be some very unhappy people in the not too distant future.

 

[james_fish]

Very different from the west it would appear. Agree with the above post, this could affect the rest of the world at some point if it doesn't die down.

James.

Very different from the West?

Rising costs; rising unemployment; rising taxes.......

There are going to be some very unhappy people in the not too distant future.

Widespread poverty, widespread disease, war, fatal riots... Very different from the west.

Yes, there's disease and poverty in the west. Aswell as high murder and crime rates.
But when you've been to the middle east and been to the 'west' then you see the differences

James.

 

[Ace Of Spades]

Very different from the west it would appear. Agree with the above post, this could affect the rest of the world at some point if it doesn't die down.

James.

Very different from the West?

Rising costs; rising unemployment; rising taxes.......

There are going to be some very unhappy people in the not too distant future.

Widespread poverty, widespread disease, war, fatal riots... Very different from the west.

Yes, there's disease and poverty in the west. Aswell as high murder and crime rates.
But when you've been to the middle east and been to the 'west' then you see the differences

James.

South America has the highest Murder rate in the world, and I think it is pretty #41#### Povery ridden.

What happened in Egypt and Tunisia were good things, but I feel uneasy about what is happening in Libya. Libya feels like it is more than just a revolution. A lot of things are going on behind the scenes that just don't seem right, and I feel USA and UK have something sinister going on in Libya.

That's just my thought though, people can't be oppressed forever, was always going to happen. Just wait until it happens in China, that's when we'll have to worry!

 

[pandymonium]

hmmmm......i note with some cynicism the " western opinion" that some of you have. hoping things will" die down" or "go away" isnt really going to make millions of north africans who are looking to the west for assistance feel very comfortable is it?......or maybe tyranny, genocide, widespread aid corruption is preferable to having rising democratic nations making demands on " our" fuel,water,food ect. how dare they? so before anyone posts again i would like each and every one to stop and think about these protestors and realise its a million miles from any place we would want to live ourselves. james you should hang youre head in shame.

 

[JoshuaA]

I currently don't know what to think about it nor do I think we should do anything about it as of yet. It's a big moral issue to claim not to do anything though many of the middle eastern countries are rather against intervention from the west world. I'm sure jumping into Libya or any other rioting country will not only cause further issues for ourselves but no doubt the nearby nations aren't going to be best pleased either.

It might be perceived as wrong to say this but I firmly believe most of these nations still have laws and government that operate as if they are still in the dark age, it is now that the general public are opening their eyes and seeing what the world has to offer.

It's a strong topic to discuss on a family forum but in the next few years depending how these nations recover could mean our families could be effected.

Edit: I must also add, I'm some what disgusted by the media with all their coverage and exaggeration of some of these stories yet no one stops to think or talk about all the fighting going on in Congo. After all the internal war in Congo is the bloodiest war since World War 2.

 

[james_fish]

james you should hang youre head in shame.

Any reason as to why?

Edit: I must also add, I'm some what disgusted by the media with all their coverage and exaggeration of some of these stories yet no one stops to think or talk about all the fighting going on in Congo. After all the internal war in Congo is the bloodiest war since World War 2.

Your right Josh, saw what goes on in Congo on Ross Kemp's most recent series. Absolutely frightening. People are going on about these riots a lot, when in reality stuff twice as bad is happening in Congo and has been for the past however many years.

James.

 

[JoshuaA]

james you should hang youre head in shame.

Any reason as to why?

For having a legitimate view apparently

Your right Josh, saw what goes on in Congo on Ross Kemp's most recent series. Absolutely frightening. People are going on about these riots a lot, when in reality stuff twice as bad is happening in Congo and has been for the past however many years.

James.

Yeh same, I was so shocked to see that and to hear some of the stuff a human being was forcing other people to do was disgusting. Seriously those sort of people are animals, really lacking in sense of morals or concerned about anything other than themselves.

 

[james_fish]

james you should hang youre head in shame.

Any reason as to why?

For having a legitimate view apparently

Your right Josh, saw what goes on in Congo on Ross Kemp's most recent series. Absolutely frightening. People are going on about these riots a lot, when in reality stuff twice as bad is happening in Congo and has been for the past however many years.

James.

Yeh same, I was so shocked to see that and to hear some of the stuff a human being was forcing other people to do was disgusting. Seriously those sort of people are animals, really lacking in sense of morals or concerned about anything other than themselves.

It would appear so? Ahh well

And yes, it was quite disturbing to just listen to. The fact that it's real and happens everyday is just beyond belief.

James.

 

[chesterscot]

Errrrrrrrrm no I think James his point was as people die and fight for the good of their public you only care what happens or affects you directly therefor you should hang your head in shame (my interpratation)

regards

 

[JoshuaA]

Errrrrrrrrm no I think James his point was as people die and fight for the good of their public you only care what happens or affects you directly therefor you should hang your head in shame (my interpratation)

regards

I somehow didn't manage to read in-between the lines of what James said to pick that up.

Edit: Anyone notice that the guy who said that anyway has '0' posts to his name?

Edit2: I also think we can see that James was actually pointing out that the issue could actually be a lot bigger if it doesn't calm down or be resolved. Anyway at the end of the day whatever we say won't change what happens there. The UK isn't in much of a position to possible fight in another theatre of war (if that is what it comes to) we are already stretched and Cameron and his merry men are committed to destroying our military capability.

 

[james_fish]

Well all's I said is that 'this could affect the rest of the world if it doesn't die down' which as far as i'm aware, is true. It's not that I care what happens to me directly, it's like what Ace said earlier... What if something like this happens in China? Then we are all in the shiz (selective language)

James.

 

[chesterscot]

Ill try another way, does it matter where in the world people are dieing been killed murdered or living under autocratic rule ? IMO it doesnt even if "the west" isnt directly or inderectly linked it is still unacceptable

True if china does have an uprising it will be slaughter I remember the famouse pics of the tank obstucted by the student and the chinese government I doubt would show any restraint crushing a rebellion, but just because they are more powerfull in arms and economy than Tunisia Egypt Bahrain libya etc doesnt make it any worse. The fact this has been taking place on the doorstep of europe is bad enough also having the S.A.S drop in to the desert at night claiming to be on a diplomatic mission leads me to beleive something behind closed doors is afoot

scot