Marine Set up

[FrankSlapperinni]

Someone please tell me if this is a good set up for a marine tank, or if it too crowded, or if the fish are not compatible.
In a 75 gallon tank:
1 Blue Tang 11" (too big?)
1 Hawaiian yellow tang 7"
1 Flame dwarf angel 4"
1 corral beauty dwarf angel 4"
1 lemonpeel dwarf angel 6"
1 bicolor angel (don't know too much about this one) 6"
3 Ocellaris Clownfish 2-4"
3-4 spotted cardinal fish (would they be too timid and small for the other fish?) 3"

This looks like a lot to me but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, how would I decorate the tank? I wasn't planning on having stuff like live rock, but would that be a must for certain specimens? In my saltwater book, it says that clownfish can be kept without anemones. I havn't set this up so I can still make changes

 

[ste2k3]

not sure about keeping all those angels in the same tank.

as for stocking I would put the tangs in last with the cardinals and the clownfish being the first.

 

[Equalizer]

I think that is to many angels. They tend to be aggresive towards each other.A 75g tank is rather small for SW.I would get the flame angel,2 clown fish,and 5 green chromis.Try to stay away from the tangs at first.They are very prone to get ich.Live rock is not always needed but is strongley reccomended.

One other thing.Go SLOW, and you will have a thriving marine aquarium

Good luck

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

well, a 75 gal is all I can afford (i'm only 13) also, the reason I picked so many angels is because I heard they are only agressive to others that look like them, and all of the ones I piked are compleatly different(except fo the fact that the bi color has yellow on it, like the lemonpeel).

 

[Equalizer]

Id say pic your favorite angel and get that one.In a big tank id say you could pull it off. but i dont think it would be wise to do it in anything under 220g. There are a number of other fish that you could also look in to.

Is this going to be a reef or a fish only?
What equipment are you going to use such as skimmer,power heads,live rock,live sand, mechanical filtration,and lighting?

 

[ostrow]

Ditto on tangs. They can be aggressive toward each other.

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

It is going to be a fish-only setup, a mini reef would cost a fortune that I don't have on lights, plus with any dwarf angel fish the coral will be at risk. the tank is going to have a protein skimmer, wet/dry filter HOB filter, the works. Just one question, what is the point of power heads? I know the generate current, but do the fish need this? Also I lied, I have another question, is a sump the cabinet beneath the aquarium?

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

sorry about the double post.

how about this?

1 longnose hawkfish (this one won't eat any of the smaller inhabitants, right?) 5"
1 Hawaiian yellow tang 7"
1 Flame dwarf angel 4"
1 corral beauty dwarf angel 4"
1 bicolor angel 6"
3 Ocellaris Clownfish 2-4"
3-4 spotted cardinal fish 3"

I took away the Blue tang because it's too big and they are kind of expensive in case I kill it. I took away the lemon peel because they are allmost all yellow, like the hawaiian tang, so I figured there would be inconsistances there. I added the hawkfish because I heard the're very good beginner fish.

 

[Equalizer]

OK, Lets start here. Rule of thumb 1 inch of fish per 5 gallons of water.Remeber they grow,keep that in mind.With the fish you have listed they total approx.35 inches way to much.If i were you id get the hawk fish,2 clowns.and since you insist the flame angel,and the bi color angel and hope for the best. The key to this is go slow add inhabitance 1 per month or longer.

A sump is another tank under or hidden from your show tank.Flow is taken from your main tank and sent to your sump and returned to the main tank. Its purpose is to give you more water volume and serve as place to have more filtration,grow micro algea,put your heaters,ect,ect.

I know that you want alot of realy neat fish.I did the same thing when i first started out.Take it from me you will end up with fewer or sick fish due to stress if you try to over stock.I wish you the best.And keep asking questions that is the best thing you can do.

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

well, I decided to leave saltwater for later in life, when I have the money for a bigger tank, but thanks for all of you help anyways.

 

[Xenity7]

Don't give up on saltwater so soon, 75 gallon's is plenty you just need to get fish with personality, not just one's that look cool. I know about the whole money thing too I'm 14 and have a limited budget as well. Here's an idea: get you parents into the hobby it's educational, scientific etc. etc. that can give your budget a real boost try getting a Chaetodon Auriga I.E. Threadfin butterfly, they are beautiful and they have have a lot of personality mine will eat right off the spoon I use to feed him, follow my finger around the glass etc. Unfortunately, though I use the present tense he passed away last week after 18 months with me . You could keep both angels with him as long as you introduce them at the same time ( to avoid aggression) and give them to seperate rock groups to hide in.

 

[Great Lakes]

A 75gal is a perfect starter size. I have seen two dwarfs succesfully put in the tank at the same time on several occasions. They have no territorial disputes this way.

The blue tang is way too large, and the yellow, though seen quite often, are hard to keep. They require a readily available continual food source.

You can add live rock and sand in a perpetual manner as all reefers do and before you know it, it'll rock!! Pardon the pun.

You are also forgetting the fascinating array of snails and crabs and shrimp you can have. They can be more fun to watch than the fish, and the stocking levels for them are much more generous.

GL

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

well, I have the money for it, but since I'm 13, what would happen if the fish lived all the way till I'm 18 and I go to college? my parents couldn't take care of theme because 1. we have horses and that is a time consuming job, anbd leaves no time for stuff like water changes ect.
but if I did get one, I changed my mind about alot of the fish I want.

1 bicolor dwarf angel
3 occelarous clown fish
3 yellowtail damselfish
1 bicolor psudochromus
would this be too much?

 

[FrankSlapperinni]

I just read that the bicolor psedochromis eats ornimental shrimp, should I get rid of this one? also, are there any starfish and corral for fish only tanks, or is there realy no point in that?

 

[ostrow]

This is much more reasonable. I'm not sure on the 3 clownfish. I guess if you add them at the same time. But my understanding is a pair is better.

If you have a 75G you could go for 5 green chromis ... they are beautiful and school nicely, and are far less aggressive than the other damsels. However, you can certainly keep the damsels too but I'm not sure how the others will do if you add them after the damsels.

If you punt on the bicolor you could go for a royal gramma basslet ... quite similar colors, gorgeous fish, readily available, and completely peaceful.

I recommend live rock for sure, and/or live sand (you can skip the sand ... there's a hefty debate on the virtue or lack thereof of a sandbed and with my cyano problems I'm sort of wishing I'd just gone with the rock......