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Male Or Female Rams

Id say the same as above, at a guess. 1 male 1 female.

Mine had to go back to the store today after buying them yesterday. They were lovely until feeding time, when they instantly turned on the corydora's :(

So, here's hoping your guys are less nasty haha, they certainly look nice.

shame u had the cory trouble mate.. im still weighing up whether my b ram is too dangerous to keep with my precious corys...

what are you gonna get instead?
 
The "private area" of the larger one looks to have a kind of 2/3mm oblong hanging down, looks like it is connected to the fish in the middle oddly! As opposed to at the front end or such like.

The small one doesnt seem to have any sort of distinct area there. Hardly anything to see and always has its fins up against its body hiding it all!

Confused as ever, Rob :)
 
shame u had the cory trouble mate.. im still weighing up whether my b ram is too dangerous to keep with my precious corys...

what are you gonna get instead?

Well I had very young panda cory's in the tank, the adults didn't like shoved around too much, but the young ones couldn't take the beating.

So instead forked out £30 to get a pair of cockatoo cichlids delivered to my door wednesday.. hehe.
 
Last one of underneath the undecided smaller one (sorry unclear iphone again)
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Again, looks male to me.

But could be due to sunken belly. I think you may have to wait a few days for it to fatten up.
 
Well I had very young panda cory's in the tank, the adults didn't like shoved around too much, but the young ones couldn't take the beating.

So instead forked out £30 to get a pair of cockatoo cichlids delivered to my door wednesday.. hehe.

cockatoo cichlids, ooh very nice! :hey: do you not anticipate the same problem i.e. with your corys??

Where did you order from? Some place online!? (I've yet to order livestock online, I want to hear a good report before I do :sly:
 
Well I had very young panda cory's in the tank, the adults didn't like shoved around too much, but the young ones couldn't take the beating.

So instead forked out £30 to get a pair of cockatoo cichlids delivered to my door wednesday.. hehe.

cockatoo cichlids, ooh very nice! :hey: do you not anticipate the same problem i.e. with your corys??

Where did you order from? Some place online!? (I've yet to order livestock online, I want to hear a good report before I do :sly:


Kesgrave Tropicals or ste12000 on ebay are brilliant Sellers. I and a few of the other members have bought from them both and I personally would highly recommend them :good:

I`ve had Apistos, Bolivian Rams and German Blue Rams along with Corys and have had no bother. I guess it`s like anything, you may get one bad apple out of a bunch but it`s not necessarily the case :)
 
Well I had very young panda cory's in the tank, the adults didn't like shoved around too much, but the young ones couldn't take the beating.

So instead forked out £30 to get a pair of cockatoo cichlids delivered to my door wednesday.. hehe.

cockatoo cichlids, ooh very nice! :hey: do you not anticipate the same problem i.e. with your corys??

Where did you order from? Some place online!? (I've yet to order livestock online, I want to hear a good report before I do :sly:

I've been told that the apisto's will be much more peaceful, we'll see though.

And i ordered from Kesgrave tropicals, and am in process of hopfully buying some females from Ste12000 funnily enough.
 
here is a mature male. they are exceptionally easier to sex when mature compared to a juvenile

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he has the obvious dorsal crest. flat belly. bumped head shape. his genital papilla is tapering backwards to a point. and exceptional fins, length and extensions, tail, rear of the dorsal, anal and ventral.

here is a mature female.

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at this age, she too has all the fin extensions of the male (the tail wasnt completely captured in the photo) except her ventral and anal fins arent quite as long. her head shape is smoothly rounded. her ovipositor is large, round and pointing downwards (and if she hadnt just spawned would be far more prominent). her belly is round-ish (again she had just spawned)

the traits that occur in both sexes usually always develop sooner in the males. head shape isnt always nicely defined in juveniles

really need some clearer photos (or maybe a video?) but it looks like you might have 1 male and 1 female
 
Thanks so much for that, the smaller one does have a curved head compared to the larger ones. Time will tell i guess.

Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, I hope i can repay the knowledge on one day!
 
here is a mature male. they are exceptionally easier to sex when mature compared to a juvenile

img0484resize.jpg


he has the obvious dorsal crest. flat belly. bumped head shape. his genital papilla is tapering backwards to a point. and exceptional fins, length and extensions, tail, rear of the dorsal, anal and ventral.

here is a mature female.

img0487resize.jpg


at this age, she too has all the fin extensions of the male (the tail wasnt completely captured in the photo) except her ventral and anal fins arent quite as long. her head shape is smoothly rounded. her ovipositor is large, round and pointing downwards (and if she hadnt just spawned would be far more prominent). her belly is round-ish (again she had just spawned)

the traits that occur in both sexes usually always develop sooner in the males. head shape isnt always nicely defined in juveniles

really need some clearer photos (or maybe a video?) but it looks like you might have 1 male and 1 female

Meguro, are you completely sure you haven't got that backwards/ As that completely goes against the sexing chart :S
 
Im useless, i would have thought the lower one was male as such bright colours, and they both have a much bigger fin on top and round noses :(

Grr, Guess babies is the only real sign :p
 
I would have initially thought bright colours and huge third fin meant it was male, but i guess the underside looks more like female parts on review.
 

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