Looking For Uv Recommendations

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Im thinking to add UV to my 75G tank. I dont have algae problem but sometimes my fish gets ich. So I want some kind of not very pricey uv-filter to run for parasitic extermination.
So I dont need anything 24/7/365 for 400$. I have zebra clowns, shrimps, discus fish & plenty of plants in my tank so UV seems to me more safe to use than to doze whole tank with meds. I do use Melafix quite often because its harmless to scaleless fish but its not powerful enough if ich starts to spread.
Is there any good UV for that use?
 
If you just try to eradicate the ich parasites, you are just treating the symptom. Ich outbreaks happen for a reason. One of the most common is a sudden drop in water temperature.
 
Ya I'm trying to lower tepmerature. Its 30C but I want to keep them at 28C. So yes everytime I try to move my discus to lower T conditions they getting white dots. But everyone says that 30C is too high :( Seems that even lowering on 1 degree is effects them :(  I wouldnt say that water T goes down dramatically but they dont like it at all lower than 30
 
by turming my heater down on 1 degree
 
If you just try to eradicate the ich parasites, you are just treating the symptom. Ich outbreaks happen for a reason. One of the most common is a sudden drop in water temperature.
 
Based on everything I have read  warming the water shortens the life cycle of the parasite.  Cooling the water slows it down.  Cooling the water may cause the visible symptoms to disappear and the parasite to go dormat, but does not kill it.  In contrast warming the  shortens the life cycle  potentially causing the parasite to die before it can infect another fish  Everything  I have read indicates keeping the water warm is the correct course of action.  However if enough fish are infected it may not be possible to warm the water enough to be effective.  
 
Rina probably has a heavily infected tank.  in that case killing the parasite with chemicals or UV maybe called for.   I believe Rina's decision to use a UV filter is the correct course of action.  I haven't seen ich in my tank so I unfortunately don't have not had the need to install a UV filter.   However I would keep the UV on for at least 2 months (24 hours a day) to eradicate the parasite.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis
 
Uv will kill the free floating ich if the Uv bulb is strong enough.but the ich from the substrate must be vacuumed up.
 
StevenF said:
 
If you just try to eradicate the ich parasites, you are just treating the symptom. Ich outbreaks happen for a reason. One of the most common is a sudden drop in water temperature.
 
Based on everything I have read  warming the water shortens the life cycle of the parasite.  Cooling the water slows it down.  Cooling the water may cause the visible symptoms to disappear and the parasite to go dormat, but does not kill it.  In contrast warming the  shortens the life cycle  potentially causing the parasite to die before it can infect another fish  Everything  I have read indicates keeping the water warm is the correct course of action.  However if enough fish are infected it may not be possible to warm the water enough to be effective.  
 
Rina probably has a heavily infected tank.  in that case killing the parasite with chemicals or UV maybe called for.   I believe Rina's decision to use a UV filter is the correct course of action.  I haven't seen ich in my tank so I unfortunately don't have not had the need to install a UV filter.   However I would keep the UV on for at least 2 months (24 hours a day) to eradicate the parasite.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis
 
yes it re-occuring. But so far on 1 or 2 fishes at same time not all of them & usually dissapears withing a week
gmc1 said:
Uv will kill the free floating ich if the Uv bulb is strong enough.but the ich from the substrate must be vacuumed up.
with what tool? I have 4 inch substrate with rooted plants. How do I fo that? I to vacuum cleaning with Eheim Quick Vac Pro but not very deep
 
StevenF said:
Based on everything I have read...
 
 
Reading about it is good but nothing compares to actual experience. I'm sorry but too many people post to these forums with their interpretations of what they read without any first hand experience. I'm glad you were honest about it but you would be better off just referring to the articles you are reading rather than suggesting a course of action unless you have actually dealt with it before.
 
Having cared for well over a thousand tanks, I have cured ich countless times directly and indirectly through instruction. It is easy to cure and there are a variety of effective treatments. The most common mistake is not continuing the treatment after the visible signs have disappeared. I believe that is the case here. If the treatment has been continued after the symptoms have cleared, they may be something else that is causing the outbreaks. It sounds like the temperature is being dropped slowly so that is probably not it.
 
Rina, can you test your water and post the results?
 
If you really want to learn and understand UV it uses and how to calculate the specific equipment needed i urge your read at the link below. I actually own and use (when needed) a UV unit,
 
What power UV you need, what circulation rate you need and which specific type of UV bulb and unit are all covered here:
http://americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumUVSterilization.html
 
My UV is mostly not in use. It is for specific applications. It is important to realize the UV can only deal with things which are free floaring/swimming in the water, Things that are attached are not affected.
 
TwoTankAmin said:
If you really want to learn and understand UV it uses and how to calculate the specific equipment needed i urge your read at the link below. I actually own and use (when needed) a UV unit,
 
What power UV you need, what circulation rate you need and which specific type of UV bulb and unit are all covered here:
http://americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumUVSterilization.html
 
My UV is mostly not in use. It is for specific applications. It is important to realize the UV can only deal with things which are free floaring/swimming in the water, Things that are attached are not affected.
 
Do you run your UV inline with your filter or is it on a separate pump? 
 
It is independently powered. You need to read at that link. One of the things it deals with are the two of the major considerations in selecting a UV unit- dwell time and turnover rate.
 
Most filters move water to fast to be effective when using a UV. There is more to it than these two factors, but those are integral in determining wattage needed and the pump/power head flow rate needed.
 
Like everything else in tanks, there is science behind it. This includes UV.
 
TwoTankAmin said:
If you really want to learn and understand UV it uses and how to calculate the specific equipment needed i urge your read at the link below. I actually own and use (when needed) a UV unit,
 
What power UV you need, what circulation rate you need and which specific type of UV bulb and unit are all covered here:
http://americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumUVSterilization.html
 
My UV is mostly not in use. It is for specific applications. It is important to realize the UV can only deal with things which are free floaring/swimming in the water, Things that are attached are not affected.
I red that before & its just too much info... Much complicated than to choose filter lol. I have my cheap chinese UV-lamp internal "filter" I cant even figure out how to open it to take lamp out  :( Its like which brand to look at? I googled Eheim because I have everything Eheim already. But they dont to UV for US at all :(
And also if you say to run UV for a month - how does I'll add my weekly supplements for my plants ? UV will destroy it isnt it?
 

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