Linda says let's go for a ride

[TwoTankAmin]

This was how I got my 150 and 125 moved in Those two gents were very strong and had a pick-up truck. They loaded the tanks, drove them here and then got them into the room and onto the stands. That is an older 150 and has to weight close to 400 pounds.

Both tanks in place.

 

[anewbie]

This was how I got my 150 and 125 moved in Those two gents were very strong and had a pick-up truck. They loaded the tanks, drove them here and then got them into the room and onto the stands. That is an older 150 and has to weight close to 400 pounds.
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Both tanks in place.

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Hey nice house !

 

[TwoTankAmin]

TY. I have to admit it is inherited. My parents built it in 1961 for use as a weekend and summer home to have a place outside New York City where we lived for any years, but not too far out. The best part of this place, as far as out hobby is concerned, is the well water. This area is old in terms of the rock structure. Most soft water fish thrive in it and reproduce readily. I like to tell people that my well water apparently contains a natural fish aphrodisiac.

Both my brother and I are old bachelors and we now live in the house. I cannot complain. The house is in the woods and it has both a swimming pool and a tennis court (which we never use). It is a lovely place but it also very expensive here. Bro and I could not have been able to buy the place had we not inherited it. It takes our combined incomes to afford it.

While the well water is great for my fish, the layout is not. I have tanks in two different buildings and a total of 4 to 5 different rooms. The 5 is in the summer when the total used to rise to 28 from the normal 20 I ran year round. I have a lot of hoses and pumps and duplicate equipment .

 

[Oldspartan]

Just be aware angelfishes do not get along in a group. I have a 600 (10x4ft) and with 4 angelfisehs they collect at least twice a week to fight. Now flag cichild or b. cupido - they get along in groups... as well as keyholes (for the most part).

We hope they pair. If they do each, pair will have its own tank, (with appropriate mates).

 

[TwoTankAmin]

If you want to breed anegls, my advice in not to have any "mates." A spawning pair of angels has been known to eliminate all the other resident in some tanks. In others, it just terrorizes them.

While most angel parents amay not be inclined to eat their children, subsequent generations may be by their siblings. I saw this happen with swordtails when there were multiple spawns. While the tiny fry could use cover to protect them from adult [redation, this was not the case from the siblings a couple of generations behind the current one.

It seems that even the seemingly most peaceful of cichlids turn into terrorists when they get into the spawning mode and especially when protecting their young:

 

[anewbie]

If you want to breed anegls, my advice in not to have any "mates." A spawning pair of angels has been known to eliminate all the other resident in some tanks. In others, it just terrorizes them.

While most angel parents amay not be inclined to eat their children, subsequent generations may be by their siblings. I saw this happen with swordtails when there were multiple spawns. While the tiny fry could use cover to protect them from adult [redation, this was not the case from the siblings a couple of generations behind the current one.

It seems that even the seemingly most peaceful of cichlids turn into terrorists when they get into the spawning mode and especially when protecting their young:

While each pair is different and i once did have a very violent pair most of the pairs i have have been relatively tame towards non-angels. The weirdest thing is when a loach decides to eat their eggs they have no clue of what to do and can only stare at it in confusion.

 

[OldFishKeeper]

While each pair is different and i once did have a very violent pair most of the pairs i have have been relatively tame towards non-angels. The weirdest thing is when a loach decides to eat their eggs they have no clue of what to do and can only stare at it in confusion.

...maybe they have a cloaking device ...

 

[anewbie]

...maybe they have a cloaking device ...

No - i think it had something to do with the shape of the fishes. sa fishes know how to hurt sa fishes while probably instinct they are program with hit here to kill instructions. But a loach - where does it hit a loach to harm it or even scare it off - it doesn't know what to do with a loach and probably just as well since it would be like using a bb gun on a tank.

 

[OldFishKeeper]

No - i think it had something to do with the shape of the fishes. sa fishes know how to hurt sa fishes while probably instinct they are program with hit here to kill instructions. But a loach - where does it hit a loach to harm it or even scare it off - it doesn't know what to do with a loach and probably just as well since it would be like using a bb gun on a tan

No - i think it had something to do with the shape of the fishes. sa fishes know how to hurt sa fishes while probably instinct they are program with hit here to kill instructions. But a loach - where does it hit a loach to harm it or even scare it off - it doesn't know what to do with a loach and probably just as well since it would be like using a bb gun on a tank.

Wow, and here, after 65+ years, I thought I knew a lot about fish. I have bred discus, angels and other cichlids, have had hands, nets and other fish attacked by breeders, but never the pleasure of a loach.

 

[anewbie]

Wow, and here, after 65+ years, I thought I knew a lot about fish. I have bred discus, angels and other cichlids, have had hands, nets and other fish attacked by breeders, but never the pleasure of a loach.

there are two major groups of loaches:
pangio (think snake)
and
boita (think torpedo).

I have pangio with the winkies and boita with the angles and chocolate. Btw if you get tired of angels i have a lot of little chocoaltes swimming around you can come over and catch.

 

[Oldspartan]

Perhaps loaches can become my solution.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

There is another fact about clowns that most folks do not know about. They carry a pair of switchblades which they only pull when they need to do so. This picture by Emma Turner is from Loaches.com illustrates this.

Chromobotia macracanthus with Suboccular spines raised​

Make no mistake, these are deadly weapons. Maybe you angels had been made aware of this?

 

[anewbie]

Perhaps loaches can become my solution.

Don't get pangio they look like worms to angels; for boita you will need that unmentionable aquarium size.

Well to be fair you could go with zebra and angels in a 70 or whatever. zebra are nice they look like zebras but they are pretty passive they never bother my angels eggs. yoyo love the eggs but they can get a bit larger so maybe a 6 foot 120

 

[fishorama]

Oldspartan, my husband & I have shared this hobby for more than 40 years, & it's mostly been fun! Sometimes 1 of us is the "main" fish keeper but we both help with tanks & fish choices. Early on we were heavily into CA cichlids & corys. Then later I turned into a loach nut, then gradually, a plant enthusiast. I think it's wonderful Linda took you on a surprise journey for new fish!

I was given 6 silver (wild type) subadult angels. I put them in a 75g 4ft tank. 2 paired up eventually & all the other fish were kept in 18inches at 1 end. The pair was very attentive to eggs & wigglers. Then (shock!) they carefully spit the new free swimmers into the very high filter intake over & over. While it was awful to watch, I really didn't want to raise angel fry. Then all the angels went back to "fairly" agreeable behavior, for angels...for a while. The next times there were eggs the other angels were able to do quick attacks to eat some eggs each time. But no more fry so we didn't have to make the hard decisions.

Your user name makes me think of my childhood at Michigan State University, MSU Spartans! Go green!