Juel Rio 125 aerator

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russkev

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Hi

This is my first week with a new Juwel Rio 125 tank. This has been setup with gravel and water and have the aerator and heater running. However the aerator is not producing any bubbles in the tank although the surface is moving quite dramtically. There are 2 > shaped pipes with one fitted to the aerator and pointing towards the surface. I am not sure hoe air can get into the aerator as there is no hose pulling air from the atmosphere.

Is this setup correct or have I done something wrong ?

any help appreciated

Kevin :S
 
russkev said:
Hi

This is my first week with a new Juwel Rio 125 tank. This has been setup with gravel and water and have the aerator and heater running. However the aerator is not producing any bubbles in the tank although the surface is moving quite dramtically. There are 2 > shaped pipes with one fitted to the aerator and pointing towards the surface. I am not sure hoe air can get into the aerator as there is no hose pulling air from the atmosphere.

Is this setup correct or have I done something wrong ?

any help appreciated

Kevin :S
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You know usually you have to run a seperate airpump into the venturi for there to be bubbles... Unless this has a built in Pump and airline- but I doubt it.

If the aerator is buit in- you know that clear plastic tube with the blue thing on the end have to be OUTSIDE the water to draw air in right?
 
russkey,

Theory says that the venturi should suck in air without the need for an airpump. And yes the blue tube should be connected and the other end should be in air.

I have heard folks say that it makes a sound like a child sucking on a straw :)

In case you are wondering if the fish are not getting enough oxygen then you dont have to worry. They will get enough even without having the bubbles!!!
 
Aerators are not supplied when you buy the tank (i know cos i have many Juwel Tanks in my home and they always come supplied with the filter housing & media/heater & powerhead), im wondering if russ is mistaking the powerhead for an aerator???

If this is the case and you have not bought a seperate aerator unit to fit to the powerhead then you will not get bubbles (you will know anyway of your fish are not getting enough oxygen in the water as they will start to sit very near the top of the tank).

In my personal opinion the aerator is far too noisy, your best bet would be to get yourself a Rena AirPump (quietest ive found) and a fine cylinder airstone (they are expensive at about £7 - £8 a throw but well worth it for the lovely fine bubbles they produce in comparison to a normal sand airstone). They also aerate the tank very well indeed... especially if you have a temp of around 78-80f. Remember the warmer your water the less oxygen naturally circulating and the more aeration you will need.
 
Guys

Thanks for all of your responses. As you corectly point out it is only a pump and I am hoping therefore I amy not need to add in a aerator. Thanks for the tip re:fish but at present the tank is still empty apart from 6 aquarium plants. I'm also presuming that the plant will also sufficiently oxygenate the water !?? Am I right ?

I was going to create a new post but thought I'd tag this question here.

I planted the new plants on Friday evening and gave them a very quick look over. Tonight I've noticed that there are a couple of small Snails crawling around on the leaves. Is it safe to leave them in the tank or should they be removed before the fish are added. I don't know what type of Snail they are but any advice greatfully accepted.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
Depends if you consider snails to be interesting critters or horrible pests! You can't really avoid snails if you have live plants, they sneak in on the plants however carefully you look. You can either pick them off and a) crush them and feed them to your fish, or b ) bin/flush them, or just live with them. I quite like snails, when they get to be all over the glass I pick some out and feed them to my puffer, otherwise I leave them be. They are also a good indication of overfeeding.... you got LOADS of snails you need to cut back on the food.

They won't harm your fish or hinder your cycling at all, so unless you really object to them I'd leave them be for the moment.

HTH

Sarah
 
Sarah

Thanks for the response. In which case I'll leave them and keep an eye on them !

Still trying to get my head around fishless cycling or leaving it and getting some hardy fish in the tank to kick the process off. I 've read various threads on cycling, some seem to recommend adding chemicals (ammonia etc) and others seem tio suggest adding a few fish. As a beginner little bit concerned about the former, as I'm new to this and would also like to see fish in my tank soon. The tanks been running for over a week now although only put plants in last Friday. I've also added dechlorineator agents and have performed a NO2 test twice with the readings normal i.e. < 0.3 mg/l.

HELP - what's recommended here ?

Kevin
 
I'd definitely go for fishless!

I know the thought of adding a corrosive chemical like ammonia sounds daunting; it did to me when I started up again after a 30 yrs break from fishkeeping.

It's easy to forget that that same corrosive chemical will be added by the fish, from their waste once we put them in the tank, and unless we've done a fishless cycle first, there will be no friendly bacteria to deal with it, so they will basically spend their first few weeks swimming in a toxic bath. There is just no way of keeping fish from producing ammonia.

The point of adding ammonia out of a bottle is that there are no fish there to suffer from any mistakes, and you don't add the fish until the test results tell you it is absolutely safe.

You will need a liquid test kit that tests for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. Also some unperfumed household ammonia, best acquired from a hardware store, and a pipette.

When I did mine, I added 12 drops a day (to a 60 ltrs tank) until the tests showed me that the ammonia had spiked and then gone down, and the nitrites had spiked, then half the quantity (6 drops) every day until the nitrites went down and the nitrates spiked. Then I did an 80% water change and added the fish the same day.

I was then able to add all my fish in one go, including some not considered hardy enough to cycle a tank. I had no problems with water stats and all the fish were healthy. A totally different experience from when I cycled my first tank with fish.
 

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