Jewel Filter

[barnsleyfisherman]

The new tank I bought came with a Jewel filter. Having looked through some historical posts, it seems that people prefer to take these out..... Why is this??? Are they a bad make, not upto the job??? Any information would be appreciated

At the moment I don't have many fish in the tank (new set up but using all materials from old tank). Ideally I will be stocking the tank it with a few larger fish once it is ready for it.

 

[diademhill]

The new tank I bought came with a Jewel filter. Having looked through some historical posts, it seems that people prefer to take these out..... Why is this??? Are they a bad make, not upto the job??? Any information would be appreciated

At the moment I don't have many fish in the tank (new set up but using all materials from old tank). Ideally I will be stocking the tank it with a few larger fish once it is ready for it.

Depends what you mean by larger fish.

Juwel filters work well for moderately stocked tanks of normal community fish. They are excellent biological filters but they can be a bit lax at picking up particulate wastes. If the box doesn't offend your sense of aesthetics, keep it and add another filter later.

sue

 

[barnsleyfisherman]

Hi Sue

Larger fish I mean another Angel which will be the same size as the current one, a few large gourami's and maybe another Clown loach. Will also add in some smaller sized fish, guppies, danios.

Just want to get it right. Had a tank for four years but we have upgraded to allot bigger tank.

Can you recommend any good fish suitable for the fish we already have?

 

[diademhill]

Hi Sue

Larger fish I mean another Angel which will be the same size as the current one, a few large gourami's and maybe another Clown loach. Will also add in some smaller sized fish, guppies, danios.

Just want to get it right. Had a tank for four years but we have upgraded to allot bigger tank.

Can you recommend any good fish suitable for the fish we already have?

Did you move your old filter across?

I wouldn't add any fish for a couple of weeks at least and forget guppies with angels. What fish do you actually have at present. I consider your tank too small for clown loaches but it would be great for Botia kubotai.

"A few large gouramis" is worrying - they are territorial. A pair of pearls could work though.

Rather than danios consider larger small tetras, pristellas, black neons etc.

Sue

 

[barnsleyfisherman]

Due to problems with the other tank I had to quickly move the fish across into the new one. This meant a new filter as the old one was 'under gravel. All water was moved across and some gravel (but majority is new).

I don't intend to add any fish for another 2 - 3 weeks, and just hope the other fish survive. So far two water samples have come back OK.

I thought my tank would be suitable for Clown loaches. The ones I have so far love the new tank.

My current stock is listed in my Sig.

 

[gamwar]

I have a jewl aquariam and I find the filter very good.
However I do have a community tank with the following small fish:
- 4 wcmm
- 3 Zebra danios
- 5 Glowlights
- 3 Zebra loaches

 

[diademhill]

Due to problems with the other tank I had to quickly move the fish across into the new one. This meant a new filter as the old one was 'under gravel. All water was moved across and some gravel (but majority is new).

I don't intend to add any fish for another 2 - 3 weeks, and just hope the other fish survive. So far two water samples have come back OK.

I thought my tank would be suitable for Clown loaches. The ones I have so far love the new tank.

My current stock is listed in my Sig.

Please invest in test kits - you need to be able to test as soon as you see any change & your tank may well spike .

I have had clown loaches outgrow a 6x2x2' tank. My largest tank at the moment is 800 litres and I consider it about minimum size for clowns. They are a fish that lives a long time & grows huge with proper care.

Your tank lacks mid swimmers. I'd give the gouramis a miss & eventually - and probably in at least a month - get a shoal of deep bodied tetras - flame, pristella, beacon, rosy, bleeding heart.

I would stay away from the slender species with angels.

The Juwel filter should suffice.
Sue

 

[scubadoo]

Juwel filters are fine for most aquariums.

I've found them to be fairly efficient and quiet with a decent amount of media. Dont get me wrong - they're not in the same league as an external eheim or anything, but it depends on what you keep.

I would reckon that with the type of fish you have it will be fine - if you find you need more filtration, you can always add more later.

If I was setting up a tank with a stack of dirty Malawi crapping machines then I'd definately use an external, but so long as you dont overstock I'd say you'll be fine.

You can always bung something like a Fluval 2 at the back of the tank to supplement it for about £20 and that could be used in a hospital tank or for quarrantine if needed.

 

[barnsleyfisherman]

Thanks for your help Sue. I'll see how the clown loaches go, had the oldest one for 3.5 years now in a smaller tank which I didn't like. So far they are loving the new tank, loads of places for them to hide, etc.

 

[DarkEntity]

First thing i did with my Juwel was remove that horrific black box. You will not believe the space you have after its gone, plus an external Eheim will do near 50% better filtration and wont intrude on the water space for fish.

Its worth the 15mins to remove the box and use an external if you are up for the task

 

[sankyj]

I have a juwel, and I keep discus. I found the Juwel filter was not good enough for discus, so I added a Fluval external, the two working together do a great job. However I would not recommend a Juwel if you plan on keeping any Cichlids

 

[fishstick]

Sankyi- why would you not recomend Juwel if you are going to keep cichlids?

 

[sankyj]

Sankyi- why would you not recomend Juwel if you are going to keep cichlids?

I just had problems with mine, It could not cope. Nitrite and ammonia were constantly rising until I added the external filter